From: Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support>
To: Workgroup for fully free GNU/Linux distributions
<gnu-linux-libre@nongnu.org>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] gnu: Add ungoogled-chromium.
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2019 15:43:12 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190204144312.GW12072@protected.rcdrun.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190204055656.6aad770f@parabola>
On Mon, Feb 04, 2019 at 05:56:56AM -0500, bill-auger wrote:
> On Mon, 4 Feb 2019 02:46:30 -0500 Ineiev wrote:
> > On Sun, Feb 03, 2019 at 11:52:04PM -0500, bill-auger wrote:
> > > the main, central FSDG concern: which programs are
> > > freely distributable and which are not
> >
> > I don't think the main FSDG concern is which programs are freely
> > distributable, and even which programs are free
>
> geez, i almost erased that bit before sending it too :( - to be clear:
> by "freely distributable" i totally meant "provides all five of the
> four freedoms"
>
> i will append just this - the issue here is really quite simple to
> express - one (and only one) of the following statements must be true:
>
> * the chromium software provides all of the four freedoms
> * the chromium software does not provide all of the four freedoms
>
> there is no third option
I am not sure that issue is just that simple.
Software may have free license, but it may be made
to control users, or steer to non-free software.
I cannot know if Chromium is now full free, but I
do know, and there are references on issues, here
is one example I found:
https://tracker.pureos.net/T57
There are various issues here referenced:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Chromium_(web_browser)
In general, one can make also the free software
that is controlling user or abusing users'
privacy, or sending information to companies
worldwide.
Should such software be included in free software
distributions? I don't think so.
None of 4 freedoms is referencing "no spyware",
but the guidelines do:
https://www.gnu.org/distros/free-system-distribution-guidelines.html
"The distro must contain no DRM, no back doors,
and no spyware."
That is just example, as so far I know, Chromium
was so much connected to Google and was sending
data there.
Jean
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Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2019-02-02 19:20 ` [PATCH] gnu: Add ungoogled-chromium Marius Bakke
2019-02-03 18:16 ` Joshua Branson
2019-02-04 4:52 ` bill-auger
2019-02-04 5:52 ` brettg
2019-02-04 7:46 ` Ineiev
2019-02-04 10:56 ` bill-auger
2019-02-04 14:43 ` Jean Louis [this message]
2019-02-04 12:26 ` [GNU-linux-libre] " Julie Marchant
2019-02-04 15:03 ` bill-auger
2019-02-04 22:34 ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-02-06 21:04 ` [GNU-linux-libre] " Marius Bakke
2019-02-07 23:52 ` Christopher Lemmer Webber
2019-02-07 23:59 ` Julie Marchant
2019-02-16 8:00 ` bill-auger
2019-02-16 10:25 ` Brett Gilio
2019-02-16 14:18 ` Julie Marchant
2019-02-16 15:37 ` [GNU-linux-libre] " Adam Van Ymeren
2019-02-16 19:47 ` Adonay Felipe Nogueira
2019-02-16 20:01 ` Brett Gilio
2019-02-16 20:06 ` Brett Gilio
2019-02-17 1:39 ` bill-auger
2019-02-17 22:33 ` [GNU-linux-libre] " Ricardo Wurmus
2019-02-18 12:05 ` bill-auger
2019-02-18 12:15 ` Hartmut Goebel
2019-02-18 13:44 ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2019-02-18 19:22 ` Simon Nielsen
2019-02-19 20:45 ` [GNU-linux-libre] " bill-auger
2019-02-16 20:07 ` Alex Griffin
2019-02-17 1:49 ` bill-auger
2019-02-17 1:37 ` bill-auger
2019-02-17 2:30 ` Julie Marchant
2019-02-17 2:42 ` bill-auger
2019-02-17 4:19 ` Julie Marchant
2019-02-17 7:43 ` bill-auger
2019-02-17 14:06 ` Julie Marchant
2019-02-18 7:43 ` bill-auger
2019-02-17 20:55 ` Christopher Lemmer Webber
2019-02-16 11:16 ` Gábor Boskovits
2019-02-16 12:55 ` ng0
2019-02-16 13:10 ` Gábor Boskovits
2019-02-18 13:47 ` Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
2019-02-16 15:10 ` znavko
2019-02-16 15:50 ` Marius Bakke
2019-02-16 16:20 ` [GNU-linux-libre] " Amin Bandali
2019-02-16 16:33 ` Marius Bakke
2019-02-16 19:27 ` Amin Bandali
2019-02-17 2:20 ` bill-auger
2019-02-16 16:34 ` Alexandre Oliva
2019-02-16 16:54 ` Marius Bakke
2019-02-17 3:38 ` bill-auger
2019-02-16 18:56 ` Giovanni Biscuolo
2019-02-19 16:28 ` Giovanni Biscuolo
2019-02-09 14:04 ` Adonay Felipe Nogueira
2019-02-03 20:21 ` Amin Bandali
2019-02-05 5:22 ` [bug#28004] " swedebugia
2019-02-12 15:58 ` [PATCH v2] " Marius Bakke
2019-02-18 22:43 ` [bug#28004] " Marius Bakke
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