From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: bill-auger Subject: Re: [PATCH] gnu: Add ungoogled-chromium. Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2019 02:43:24 -0500 Message-ID: <20190218024324.38ae7178@parabola> References: <20190202192023.22087-1-mbakke@fastmail.com> <87k1igpwk8.fsf@dismail.de> <20190203235204.63970587@parabola> <87sgx3mbcq.fsf@gnu.org> <87tvhf5f8d.fsf@dustycloud.org> <20190216030021.374f4c82@parabola> <87va1kav33.fsf@posteo.net> <20190216203731.0069830a@parabola> <8517fe0f-4bff-6f1e-8bee-556212a9c279@riseup.net> <20190216214255.3d7edc8d@parabola> <6b742589-eaf4-abf7-3ebf-29d503aeee24@riseup.net> <20190217024330.65169c55@parabola> Reply-To: Workgroup for fully free GNU/Linux distributions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: In-Reply-To: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: gnu-linux-libre-bounces+gldg-gnu-linux-libre=m.gmane.org@nongnu.org Sender: "gnu-linux-libre" To: gnu-linux-libre@nongnu.org Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org List-Id: guix-devel.gnu.org On Sun, 17 Feb 2019 09:06:20 -0500 Julie wrote: > So... the same thing as Linux. yes, much the same situation as linux, but with the very important difference, that we have people like the good folks at linux-libre who are constantly watching linux for new undesirables entering it, and those people are actively and routinely removing anything non-free - no such thing is happening for web browsers - no one is even watching On Sun, 17 Feb 2019 09:06:20 -0500 Julie wrote: > Are you saying, then, that we are specifically aware of proprietary > software in ungoogled-chromium? Have stated what that proprietary > software is? i am saying that i am not aware of anyone making any such accusations of non-free software being in that browser - but we are painfully aware of the accusations against chromium, and it is sitting "on the table"; so we are very unfortunately compelled to address it - thats all i am not personally wedded to any preference on *how* we should address it; but we should address it if ever someone raises the same concern with firefox, then we will be compelled to address that, when or if that unfortunate day comes; because that is exactly what the FSDG is for: to determine which software is fit for free distribution, and which is not On Sun, 17 Feb 2019 09:06:20 -0500 Julie wrote: > Why? Are you opposed to individual distros making their own individual > decisions? not all "decisions" - only the most crucial and obvious decisions like this one, regarding exactly what is "free software" and what is not "free software" - because if we can not agree on what is and is not "free software", then the term "free software" is meaningless, and hence a FSDG-free distro is a pointless distinction