From: Konrad Hinsen <konrad.hinsen@fastmail.net>
To: zimoun <zimon.toutoune@gmail.com>
Cc: Guix Devel <guix-devel@gnu.org>, 38529@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#38529: Make --ad-hoc the default for guix environment proposed deprecation mechanism
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2019 12:24:00 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1fthfz1db.fsf__10084.0817250841$1576841132$gmane$org@ordinateur-de-catherine--konrad.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJ3okZ3zSS0Rbnu5eLhpYHPvSY1emaj=-estQcjRwiJ3=4RMMA@mail.gmail.com>
Hi Simon,
> Assuming "guix environment" would stay and following the proposed
> plan, you would need to add GUIX_ENVIRONMENT_DEPRECATED=1 on the top
> of your script. In this would not be a problem for travelling back in
> time.
The problem is not how I update my scripts - I can manage that, no
matter what it takes.
The problem is scripts circulating in public repositories, tutorials,
etc. New users will find them and use them for inspiration. It's very
discouraging to see examples from tutorials fail or do something weird.
The main precedent is the Python 2->3 transition. There are tons of
GitHub repositories with Python code but no indication if it's 2, 3, or
both. I even had to use one that executed with either 2 or 3, but gave
different results. It takes a lot of motivation to persist.
For guix, there's the additional issue that we use the reproducibility
of builds as an argument. Non-reproducible examples are then a bit of a
credibility problem.
Cheers,
Konrad.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-12-20 11:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-12-08 15:42 bug#38529: Make --pure the default for `guix environment'? Pierre Neidhardt
2019-12-08 21:03 ` zimoun
2019-12-09 18:46 ` Thompson, David
2019-12-09 20:17 ` Brett Gilio
2019-12-10 17:16 ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-12-30 17:27 ` raingloom
2020-11-03 17:38 ` Christopher Lemmer Webber
2020-11-03 18:35 ` zimoun
2020-11-06 9:03 ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-11-04 9:43 ` Taylan Kammer
2020-11-04 16:05 ` Christopher Lemmer Webber
2019-12-12 11:23 ` bug#38529: Make --ad-hoc the default for guix environment proposed deprecation mechanism Gábor Boskovits
[not found] ` <CAE4v=phY+7CTKMf8Y3a9p4okfqtMGOWu9kd2Nu6oCJW8OsK3Lw@mail.gmail.com>
2019-12-12 16:47 ` zimoun
[not found] ` <CAJ3okZ3+-yAfRpYDHz-jYONguOPWjff0iWZ_7NPEz6x5mbOO1w@mail.gmail.com>
2019-12-12 20:54 ` Gábor Boskovits
[not found] ` <CAE4v=piMnBhHWpbB60qMRnnDNwqkuddfNv7cEihr9+5-52k2OA@mail.gmail.com>
2019-12-13 12:02 ` zimoun
2019-12-13 16:27 ` Gábor Boskovits
2019-12-13 16:32 ` zimoun
2019-12-13 16:41 ` Gábor Boskovits
2019-12-16 22:09 ` Ludovic Courtès
[not found] ` <87k16vdise.fsf@gnu.org>
2019-12-17 6:49 ` Konrad Hinsen
[not found] ` <e992ac46-37b9-ba12-83cc-6694427acd31@fastmail.net>
2019-12-17 9:14 ` Gábor Boskovits
[not found] ` <CAE4v=pjc5pWiaaB17tJnpO=O0=M5xrEWhyvWMLRaiLy5V19Y5Q@mail.gmail.com>
2019-12-17 13:33 ` Kyle Meyer
[not found] ` <87pngncc0n.fsf@kyleam.com>
2019-12-17 14:22 ` Brett Gilio
2019-12-17 22:30 ` Bengt Richter
[not found] ` <20191217223048.GA3741@PhantoNv4ArchGx.localdomain>
2019-12-17 23:21 ` Bengt Richter
2019-12-17 17:07 ` zimoun
[not found] ` <CAJ3okZ0Fw=02cDwdn5GuiDCyUNOUY=YaGyrFyHE5qWsOQTLASQ@mail.gmail.com>
2019-12-18 9:43 ` Konrad Hinsen
[not found] ` <m1pngmrmst.fsf@khs-macbook.home>
2019-12-18 13:09 ` zimoun
2019-12-18 20:55 ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2019-12-19 11:30 ` zimoun
2019-12-19 21:39 ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2019-12-19 22:40 ` zimoun
2019-12-20 1:37 ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2019-12-20 11:40 ` zimoun
2019-12-20 21:31 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-12-21 8:40 ` Gábor Boskovits
2019-12-21 16:51 ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-12-30 9:44 ` EuAndreh via Bug reports for GNU Guix
2019-12-30 10:34 ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-12-30 12:03 ` zimoun
2019-12-30 15:06 ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-12-30 17:55 ` zimoun
2019-12-30 21:10 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-12-30 21:32 ` zimoun
2019-12-31 18:09 ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-12-31 19:09 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2020-01-01 19:23 ` zimoun
2019-12-20 23:02 ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2019-12-21 0:04 ` zimoun
[not found] ` <CAJ3okZ3zSS0Rbnu5eLhpYHPvSY1emaj=-estQcjRwiJ3=4RMMA@mail.gmail.com>
2019-12-20 11:24 ` Konrad Hinsen [this message]
[not found] ` <m1fthfz1db.fsf@ordinateur-de-catherine--konrad.home>
2019-12-20 12:03 ` zimoun
2019-12-20 21:08 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-12-23 9:28 ` Danny Milosavljevic
2020-01-02 9:49 ` Andy Wingo
2019-12-20 21:12 ` Ricardo Wurmus
[not found] ` <87v9qapuq6.fsf@elephly.net>
2019-12-21 15:18 ` Konrad Hinsen
2019-12-19 16:31 ` bug#38529: Deprecating ‘guix environment’? Ludovic Courtès
[not found] ` <87k16snuoz.fsf_-_@gnu.org>
2019-12-19 22:48 ` zimoun
2019-12-20 11:17 ` Konrad Hinsen
[not found] ` <m1immbz1ny.fsf@ordinateur-de-catherine--konrad.home>
2019-12-20 13:21 ` zimoun
2019-12-08 22:43 ` bug#38529: Make --pure the default for `guix environment'? Leo Famulari
2019-12-09 5:23 ` Maxim Cournoyer
2022-08-19 14:28 ` Maxim Cournoyer
2019-12-09 17:37 ` Jesse Gibbons
2019-12-12 19:33 ` zimoun
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