From: Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com>
To: Pierre Neidhardt <mail@ambrevar.xyz>
Cc: 38529@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#38529: Make --pure the default for `guix environment'?
Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2019 14:23:07 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87tv6aoyx0.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87eexeu8mo.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> (Pierre Neidhardt's message of "Sun, 08 Dec 2019 16:42:07 +0100")
Hi Pierre,
Pierre Neidhardt <mail@ambrevar.xyz> writes:
> --pure seems to be the more sensible behaviour. "Impure" environments
> can have unexpected behaviours, so it makes sense to only allow them
> when the user explicitly asks for it.
Unfortunately Guix packages often don't work well with --pure. Be it
magit that depends on git, or Emacs that depend or coreutils, etc.,
there are many things that are expected to be propagated and aren't
explicitly, by omission or sometimes for closure's size sake (when the
feature is optional). We could argue that is a good reason for the
proposed change :-).
I think environments are great mostly for hacking and trying stuff
quickly, where the guarantees of Guix do not matter as much as for
profiles (and if they did, you'd be better with guix environment
--container anyway).
So, I guess that makes me more on the side of "let's no change the
defaults for now".
Maxim
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Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-12-08 15:42 bug#38529: Make --pure the default for `guix environment'? Pierre Neidhardt
2019-12-08 21:03 ` zimoun
2019-12-09 18:46 ` Thompson, David
2019-12-09 20:17 ` Brett Gilio
2019-12-10 17:16 ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-12-30 17:27 ` raingloom
2020-11-03 17:38 ` Christopher Lemmer Webber
2020-11-03 18:35 ` zimoun
2020-11-06 9:03 ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-11-04 9:43 ` Taylan Kammer
2020-11-04 16:05 ` Christopher Lemmer Webber
2019-12-12 11:23 ` bug#38529: Make --ad-hoc the default for guix environment proposed deprecation mechanism Gábor Boskovits
[not found] ` <CAE4v=phY+7CTKMf8Y3a9p4okfqtMGOWu9kd2Nu6oCJW8OsK3Lw@mail.gmail.com>
2019-12-12 16:47 ` zimoun
[not found] ` <CAJ3okZ3+-yAfRpYDHz-jYONguOPWjff0iWZ_7NPEz6x5mbOO1w@mail.gmail.com>
2019-12-12 20:54 ` Gábor Boskovits
[not found] ` <CAE4v=piMnBhHWpbB60qMRnnDNwqkuddfNv7cEihr9+5-52k2OA@mail.gmail.com>
2019-12-13 12:02 ` zimoun
2019-12-13 16:27 ` Gábor Boskovits
2019-12-13 16:32 ` zimoun
2019-12-13 16:41 ` Gábor Boskovits
2019-12-16 22:09 ` Ludovic Courtès
[not found] ` <87k16vdise.fsf@gnu.org>
2019-12-17 6:49 ` Konrad Hinsen
[not found] ` <e992ac46-37b9-ba12-83cc-6694427acd31@fastmail.net>
2019-12-17 9:14 ` Gábor Boskovits
[not found] ` <CAE4v=pjc5pWiaaB17tJnpO=O0=M5xrEWhyvWMLRaiLy5V19Y5Q@mail.gmail.com>
2019-12-17 13:33 ` Kyle Meyer
[not found] ` <87pngncc0n.fsf@kyleam.com>
2019-12-17 14:22 ` Brett Gilio
2019-12-17 22:30 ` Bengt Richter
[not found] ` <20191217223048.GA3741@PhantoNv4ArchGx.localdomain>
2019-12-17 23:21 ` Bengt Richter
2019-12-17 17:07 ` zimoun
[not found] ` <CAJ3okZ0Fw=02cDwdn5GuiDCyUNOUY=YaGyrFyHE5qWsOQTLASQ@mail.gmail.com>
2019-12-18 9:43 ` Konrad Hinsen
[not found] ` <m1pngmrmst.fsf@khs-macbook.home>
2019-12-18 13:09 ` zimoun
2019-12-18 20:55 ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2019-12-19 11:30 ` zimoun
2019-12-19 21:39 ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2019-12-19 22:40 ` zimoun
2019-12-20 1:37 ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2019-12-20 11:40 ` zimoun
2019-12-20 21:31 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-12-21 8:40 ` Gábor Boskovits
2019-12-21 16:51 ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-12-30 9:44 ` EuAndreh via Bug reports for GNU Guix
2019-12-30 10:34 ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-12-30 12:03 ` zimoun
2019-12-30 15:06 ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-12-30 17:55 ` zimoun
2019-12-30 21:10 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-12-30 21:32 ` zimoun
2019-12-31 18:09 ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-12-31 19:09 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2020-01-01 19:23 ` zimoun
2019-12-20 23:02 ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2019-12-21 0:04 ` zimoun
[not found] ` <CAJ3okZ3zSS0Rbnu5eLhpYHPvSY1emaj=-estQcjRwiJ3=4RMMA@mail.gmail.com>
2019-12-20 11:24 ` Konrad Hinsen
[not found] ` <m1fthfz1db.fsf@ordinateur-de-catherine--konrad.home>
2019-12-20 12:03 ` zimoun
2019-12-20 21:08 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-12-23 9:28 ` Danny Milosavljevic
2020-01-02 9:49 ` Andy Wingo
2019-12-20 21:12 ` Ricardo Wurmus
[not found] ` <87v9qapuq6.fsf@elephly.net>
2019-12-21 15:18 ` Konrad Hinsen
2019-12-19 16:31 ` bug#38529: Deprecating ‘guix environment’? Ludovic Courtès
[not found] ` <87k16snuoz.fsf_-_@gnu.org>
2019-12-19 22:48 ` zimoun
2019-12-20 11:17 ` Konrad Hinsen
[not found] ` <m1immbz1ny.fsf@ordinateur-de-catherine--konrad.home>
2019-12-20 13:21 ` zimoun
2019-12-08 22:43 ` bug#38529: Make --pure the default for `guix environment'? Leo Famulari
2019-12-09 5:23 ` Maxim Cournoyer [this message]
2022-08-19 14:28 ` Maxim Cournoyer
2019-12-09 17:37 ` Jesse Gibbons
2019-12-12 19:33 ` zimoun
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