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From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès)
To: Ricardo Wurmus <rekado@elephly.net>
Cc: 22629@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#22629: [PATCH 0/4] 'guix pull' produces a self-contained Guix
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2018 14:11:49 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87po1aaepm.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <878t7zps7t.fsf@elephly.net> (Ricardo Wurmus's message of "Thu, 31 May 2018 20:58:46 +0200")

Hello!

Ricardo Wurmus <rekado@elephly.net> skribis:

>>      The result of running ‘guix pull’ is a “profile” available under
>>   ‘~/.config/guix/current’ containing the latest Guix.  Thus, make sure to
>>   add it to the beginning of your search path so that you use the latest
>>   version, and similarly for the Info manual (*note Documentation::):
>>
>>        export PATH="$HOME/.config/guix/current/bin:$PATH"
>>        export INFOPATH="$HOME/.config/guix/current/share/info:$INFOPATH"
>
> As a profile it will have its very own “etc/profile” file.  I suppose
> that doesn’t include INFOPATH, though, because it only contains an Info
> manual but not an Info reader.  It would be extra nice if we could
> simplify this initial setup even more.

I agree.  On GuixSD of course we can add the right default.  On foreign
distros, I’m not sure how we can simplify things though.

At least, when you run the new ‘guix pull’ for the first time, you get a
note that you should define PATH.

>>      This ‘~/.config/guix/current’ profile works like any other profile
>>   created by ‘guix package’ (*note Invoking guix package::).  That is, you
>>   can list generations, roll back to the previous generation—i.e., the
>>   previous Guix—and so on:

[...]

> This also means that you could remove the “guix” package and install
> “hello” instead.  If a user did that they would lose their variant of
> guix and they’d fall back to whichever version is installed on the
> system (if any).  They could still roll back manually by changing the
> symlink.
>
> They could also think that installing the “guix” package into that
> profile would be a good idea — but then they would end up with a
> slightly older version of Guix.  (This is already possible, of course,
> but if we have a separate profile that’s intended just for Guix but with
> generic properties, this could become confusing.)
>
> I’m just thinking out loud about how users could get into trouble :)

Yeah well, we can’t really prevent them from shooting themselves in the
foot.  :-)

Now, we could hide the fact that people can use “guix package -p” on
that thing by simply providing ‘--list-generations’, ‘--roll-back’,
etc. directly in ‘guix pull’.

I think it’ll be a good idea to add a custom ‘--list-generations’ in the
future anyway, because it could display more useful information (commit
IDs, number of available packages, etc.)

>>   1. The ~/.config/guix/current profile really lives there.  That is,
>>      unlike ~/.guix-profile, it’s not in /var/guix/profiles/per-user.
>>      That could be an issue for cluster setups where home directories
>>      are not scanned by the Guix GC.  Cluster folks, please tell me!
>
> Is it impossible to store it in localstatedir?

It wouldn’t be hard, but I wanted to get things done quickly.  :-)

Thanks for your feedback!

Ludo’.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-06-01 12:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-02-11 10:35 bug#22629: Towards a new 'guix pull' Ludovic Courtès
2017-02-22  7:57 ` Pjotr Prins
2017-02-24 18:21   ` Leo Famulari
2018-04-08 16:48 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-04-08 17:45   ` Nils Gillmann
2018-05-31 14:43   ` bug#22629: [PATCH 0/4] 'guix pull' produces a self-contained Guix Ludovic Courtès
2018-05-31 14:43     ` bug#22629: [PATCH 1/4] self: Produce a complete package with the 'guix' command Ludovic Courtès
2018-05-31 14:43     ` bug#22629: [PATCH 2/4] pull: Install the new Guix in a profile Ludovic Courtès
2018-05-31 14:43     ` bug#22629: [PATCH 3/4] self: Compute and use locale data Ludovic Courtès
2018-05-31 14:43     ` bug#22629: [PATCH 4/4] self: Build the Info manual Ludovic Courtès
2018-05-31 14:53     ` bug#22629: [PATCH 0/4] 'guix pull' produces a self-contained Guix Thompson, David
2018-06-01 12:13       ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-06-03 13:08         ` Pjotr Prins
2018-06-03 20:29           ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-06-04 19:12             ` Pjotr Prins
2018-05-31 18:00     ` Konrad Hinsen
2018-06-04 11:20       ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-06-05 11:45         ` Konrad Hinsen
2018-06-06 13:24           ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-06-06 15:54             ` Konrad Hinsen
2018-06-06 20:49               ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-05-31 18:58     ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-06-01 12:11       ` Ludovic Courtès [this message]
2018-06-05 16:47     ` Fis Trivial
2018-06-06 13:27       ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-06-06 20:58         ` Fis Trivial
2018-06-09 10:07     ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-09-15 20:39       ` bug#28471: guix pull doesn't update the user manual Maxim Cournoyer
     [not found]         ` <handler.28471.D22629.152853885816765.notifdone@debbugs.gnu.org>
2018-06-13 21:46           ` bug#22629: bug#28471: closed (Re: bug#22629: [PATCH 0/4] 'guix pull' produces a self-contained Guix) Ludovic Courtès
2018-07-19  4:45     ` bug#22629: [PATCH 0/4] 'guix pull' produces a self-contained Guix Chris Marusich
2018-07-19 12:15       ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-08-28 15:16 ` bug#22629: Channels! Ludovic Courtès
2018-08-28 15:17   ` bug#22629: [PATCH 1/3] discovery: Add 'scheme-modules*' Ludovic Courtès
2018-08-28 15:17     ` bug#22629: [PATCH 2/3] Add (guix describe) and use it to initialize '%package-search-path' Ludovic Courtès
2018-08-28 15:17     ` bug#22629: [PATCH 3/3] DRAFT Add (guix channels) and use it in (guix scripts pull) Ludovic Courtès
2018-08-28 17:24   ` bug#22629: Channels! Pjotr Prins
2018-08-28 19:52   ` Mark H Weaver
2018-08-28 21:52     ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-08-29  4:09     ` Konrad Hinsen
2018-08-29 14:25       ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-08-29 15:30         ` Konrad Hinsen
2018-08-29 20:50           ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-08-29  9:29     ` Alex Sassmannshausen
2018-08-29 17:14       ` bug#22629: Channels not needed for a stable branch (was: Channels!) Mark H Weaver
2018-08-29 18:26         ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-08-30  5:57           ` Konrad Hinsen
2018-08-30  6:42             ` bug#22629: Channels not needed for a stable branch Mark H Weaver
2018-08-30 10:10               ` Konrad Hinsen
2018-08-30 12:18                 ` bug#22629: “Stable” branch Ludovic Courtès
2018-08-30 14:10                   ` Alex Sassmannshausen
2018-08-30 22:02                     ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-08-31  9:39                       ` Konrad Hinsen
2018-08-31  9:58                         ` bug#26608: " Ludovic Courtès
2018-08-31 10:33                           ` bug#32022: " Konrad Hinsen
2018-08-31 13:01                             ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-08-31 11:24                       ` bug#26608: " Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2018-08-31 11:45                       ` bug#32022: " Ricardo Wurmus
2018-09-03 14:10                       ` Alex Sassmannshausen
2018-09-03 19:52                         ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-09-04  8:02                           ` bug#26608: " Alex Sassmannshausen
2018-09-04 12:22                             ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-09-03 20:27                         ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-08-20 11:09                       ` bug#26608: " zimoun
2018-08-30 14:46                   ` Konrad Hinsen
2018-08-29 21:02         ` bug#22629: Channels not needed for a stable branch Ludovic Courtès
2018-08-30 21:29   ` bug#22629: Channels! Ludovic Courtès
2018-08-30 21:31     ` bug#22629: [PATCH v2 1/3] discovery: Add 'scheme-modules*' Ludovic Courtès
2018-08-30 21:31       ` bug#22629: [PATCH v2 2/3] Add (guix describe) and use it to initialize '%package-search-path' Ludovic Courtès
2018-08-31 12:21         ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-08-31 13:56           ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-08-31 14:32             ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-08-30 21:31       ` bug#22629: [PATCH v2 3/3] Add (guix channels) and use it in (guix scripts pull) Ludovic Courtès
2018-09-02 15:11     ` bug#22629: Channels! Ludovic Courtès

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