From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès)
To: Konrad Hinsen <konrad.hinsen@fastmail.net>
Cc: 22629@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#22629: Channels!
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2018 22:50:29 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87efeg99t6.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m15zzt42d5.fsf@ordinateur-de-catherine--konrad.home> (Konrad Hinsen's message of "Wed, 29 Aug 2018 17:30:14 +0200")
Hello Konrad,
Konrad Hinsen <konrad.hinsen@fastmail.net> skribis:
>> Mark’s concern is not about whether packages are the latest version,
>> etc. It’s about the constraints that could result from widespread
>> development of channels outside Guix proper: technically all of Guix is
>
> That's how I understood it as well. If/when Guix becomes somebody else's
> dependency, then there will be pressure on stability in Guix itself.
>
> My point is that this will happen anyway if Guix is adopted more widely.
> Every manifest file, personal or shared as part of a software package
> ("guix.scm"), relies on the same technical details as a
> channel. Introducing channels only makes the issue more visible.
True. Manifests can rely on fewer details of the API than a channel
though, particularly if they use ‘specifications->manifests’.
(BTW code in channels could use ‘specification->package’ as well to
increase decoupling a bit.)
> And this is really the same issue as with the stability of the packages
> themselves, Guix being a kind of superpackage. Most people want agility
> for the software layer they are most concerned with, and stability for
> all layers below it. For Mark (and certainly others here), Guix happens
> to be the layer they are most concerned with.
Yeah.
Thanks,
Ludo’.
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Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-02-11 10:35 bug#22629: Towards a new 'guix pull' Ludovic Courtès
2017-02-22 7:57 ` Pjotr Prins
2017-02-24 18:21 ` Leo Famulari
2018-04-08 16:48 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-04-08 17:45 ` Nils Gillmann
2018-05-31 14:43 ` bug#22629: [PATCH 0/4] 'guix pull' produces a self-contained Guix Ludovic Courtès
2018-05-31 14:43 ` bug#22629: [PATCH 1/4] self: Produce a complete package with the 'guix' command Ludovic Courtès
2018-05-31 14:43 ` bug#22629: [PATCH 2/4] pull: Install the new Guix in a profile Ludovic Courtès
2018-05-31 14:43 ` bug#22629: [PATCH 3/4] self: Compute and use locale data Ludovic Courtès
2018-05-31 14:43 ` bug#22629: [PATCH 4/4] self: Build the Info manual Ludovic Courtès
2018-05-31 14:53 ` bug#22629: [PATCH 0/4] 'guix pull' produces a self-contained Guix Thompson, David
2018-06-01 12:13 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-06-03 13:08 ` Pjotr Prins
2018-06-03 20:29 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-06-04 19:12 ` Pjotr Prins
2018-05-31 18:00 ` Konrad Hinsen
2018-06-04 11:20 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-06-05 11:45 ` Konrad Hinsen
2018-06-06 13:24 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-06-06 15:54 ` Konrad Hinsen
2018-06-06 20:49 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-05-31 18:58 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-06-01 12:11 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-06-05 16:47 ` Fis Trivial
2018-06-06 13:27 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-06-06 20:58 ` Fis Trivial
2018-06-09 10:07 ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-09-15 20:39 ` bug#28471: guix pull doesn't update the user manual Maxim Cournoyer
[not found] ` <handler.28471.D22629.152853885816765.notifdone@debbugs.gnu.org>
2018-06-13 21:46 ` bug#22629: bug#28471: closed (Re: bug#22629: [PATCH 0/4] 'guix pull' produces a self-contained Guix) Ludovic Courtès
2018-07-19 4:45 ` bug#22629: [PATCH 0/4] 'guix pull' produces a self-contained Guix Chris Marusich
2018-07-19 12:15 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-08-28 15:16 ` bug#22629: Channels! Ludovic Courtès
2018-08-28 15:17 ` bug#22629: [PATCH 1/3] discovery: Add 'scheme-modules*' Ludovic Courtès
2018-08-28 15:17 ` bug#22629: [PATCH 2/3] Add (guix describe) and use it to initialize '%package-search-path' Ludovic Courtès
2018-08-28 15:17 ` bug#22629: [PATCH 3/3] DRAFT Add (guix channels) and use it in (guix scripts pull) Ludovic Courtès
2018-08-28 17:24 ` bug#22629: Channels! Pjotr Prins
2018-08-28 19:52 ` Mark H Weaver
2018-08-28 21:52 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-08-29 4:09 ` Konrad Hinsen
2018-08-29 14:25 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-08-29 15:30 ` Konrad Hinsen
2018-08-29 20:50 ` Ludovic Courtès [this message]
2018-08-29 9:29 ` Alex Sassmannshausen
2018-08-29 17:14 ` bug#22629: Channels not needed for a stable branch (was: Channels!) Mark H Weaver
2018-08-29 18:26 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-08-30 5:57 ` Konrad Hinsen
2018-08-30 6:42 ` bug#22629: Channels not needed for a stable branch Mark H Weaver
2018-08-30 10:10 ` Konrad Hinsen
2018-08-30 12:18 ` bug#22629: “Stable” branch Ludovic Courtès
2018-08-30 14:10 ` Alex Sassmannshausen
2018-08-30 22:02 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-08-31 9:39 ` Konrad Hinsen
2018-08-31 9:58 ` bug#26608: " Ludovic Courtès
2018-08-31 10:33 ` bug#32022: " Konrad Hinsen
2018-08-31 13:01 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-08-31 11:24 ` bug#26608: " Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2018-08-31 11:45 ` bug#32022: " Ricardo Wurmus
2018-09-03 14:10 ` Alex Sassmannshausen
2018-09-03 19:52 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-09-04 8:02 ` bug#26608: " Alex Sassmannshausen
2018-09-04 12:22 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-09-03 20:27 ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-08-20 11:09 ` bug#26608: " zimoun
2018-08-30 14:46 ` Konrad Hinsen
2018-08-29 21:02 ` bug#22629: Channels not needed for a stable branch Ludovic Courtès
2018-08-30 21:29 ` bug#22629: Channels! Ludovic Courtès
2018-08-30 21:31 ` bug#22629: [PATCH v2 1/3] discovery: Add 'scheme-modules*' Ludovic Courtès
2018-08-30 21:31 ` bug#22629: [PATCH v2 2/3] Add (guix describe) and use it to initialize '%package-search-path' Ludovic Courtès
2018-08-31 12:21 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-08-31 13:56 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-08-31 14:32 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-08-30 21:31 ` bug#22629: [PATCH v2 3/3] Add (guix channels) and use it in (guix scripts pull) Ludovic Courtès
2018-09-02 15:11 ` bug#22629: Channels! Ludovic Courtès
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