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* bug#36517: 'guix deploy' does not restart services
@ 2019-07-05 23:23 Jakob L. Kreuze
  2019-07-11 15:32 ` Ludovic Courtès
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Jakob L. Kreuze @ 2019-07-05 23:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 36517

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This issue is described in more detail at [1]. Essentially, 'guix
deploy' is will happily load and start new services, as well as unload
obsolete services, but does nothing to restart valid services that are
already running.

I can assign myself to this issue. Just filing for tracking purposes :]

Regards,
Jakob

[1]: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-patches/2019-06/msg00567.html

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* bug#36517: 'guix deploy' does not restart services
  2019-07-05 23:23 bug#36517: 'guix deploy' does not restart services Jakob L. Kreuze
@ 2019-07-11 15:32 ` Ludovic Courtès
  2019-07-11 17:05   ` Jakob L. Kreuze
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Ludovic Courtès @ 2019-07-11 15:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jakob L. Kreuze; +Cc: 36517

Hi,

zerodaysfordays@sdf.lonestar.org (Jakob L. Kreuze) skribis:

> This issue is described in more detail at [1]. Essentially, 'guix
> deploy' is will happily load and start new services, as well as unload
> obsolete services, but does nothing to restart valid services that are
> already running.

That’s not a bug: ‘guix system reconfigure’ does not restart already
running services, simply because it cannot tell whether now is a good
time to restart them.  It’s a decision that’s left to the system
administrator.

However, note that ‘guix system reconfigure’ loads “replacements” for
each Shepherd service, such that next time you run ‘herd restart FOO’,
you spawn that new version of FOO.

Does that make sense?

Thanks,
Ludo’.

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* bug#36517: 'guix deploy' does not restart services
  2019-07-11 15:32 ` Ludovic Courtès
@ 2019-07-11 17:05   ` Jakob L. Kreuze
  2019-07-12 20:43     ` Ludovic Courtès
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Jakob L. Kreuze @ 2019-07-11 17:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Ludovic Courtès; +Cc: 36517

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Hi, Ludovic!

Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> writes:

> Hi,
>
> zerodaysfordays@sdf.lonestar.org (Jakob L. Kreuze) skribis:
>
>> This issue is described in more detail at [1]. Essentially, 'guix
>> deploy' is will happily load and start new services, as well as unload
>> obsolete services, but does nothing to restart valid services that are
>> already running.
>
> That’s not a bug: ‘guix system reconfigure’ does not restart already
> running services, simply because it cannot tell whether now is a good
> time to restart them.  It’s a decision that’s left to the system
> administrator.
>
> However, note that ‘guix system reconfigure’ loads “replacements” for
> each Shepherd service, such that next time you run ‘herd restart FOO’,
> you spawn that new version of FOO.
>
> Does that make sense?

Yes, that does make sense. I suppose the way I worded the initial report
wasn't great; I opened this to track support for 'restart-strategy' as
described in #33508 in 'guix deploy'. This takes care of the question of
when a good time to restart the service would be.

Regards,
Jakob

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* bug#36517: 'guix deploy' does not restart services
  2019-07-11 17:05   ` Jakob L. Kreuze
@ 2019-07-12 20:43     ` Ludovic Courtès
  2019-07-13 17:14       ` Jakob L. Kreuze
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Ludovic Courtès @ 2019-07-12 20:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jakob L. Kreuze; +Cc: 36517

Howdy!

zerodaysfordays@sdf.lonestar.org (Jakob L. Kreuze) skribis:

> Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> writes:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> zerodaysfordays@sdf.lonestar.org (Jakob L. Kreuze) skribis:
>>
>>> This issue is described in more detail at [1]. Essentially, 'guix
>>> deploy' is will happily load and start new services, as well as unload
>>> obsolete services, but does nothing to restart valid services that are
>>> already running.
>>
>> That’s not a bug: ‘guix system reconfigure’ does not restart already
>> running services, simply because it cannot tell whether now is a good
>> time to restart them.  It’s a decision that’s left to the system
>> administrator.
>>
>> However, note that ‘guix system reconfigure’ loads “replacements” for
>> each Shepherd service, such that next time you run ‘herd restart FOO’,
>> you spawn that new version of FOO.
>>
>> Does that make sense?
>
> Yes, that does make sense. I suppose the way I worded the initial report
> wasn't great; I opened this to track support for 'restart-strategy' as
> described in #33508 in 'guix deploy'. This takes care of the question of
> when a good time to restart the service would be.

Oh, I see.  To me that’s completely orthogonal to ‘guix deploy’ though,
in that ‘guix system reconfigure’ and ‘guix deploy’ should use the same
code for that.

Thanks,
Ludo’.

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* bug#36517: 'guix deploy' does not restart services
  2019-07-12 20:43     ` Ludovic Courtès
@ 2019-07-13 17:14       ` Jakob L. Kreuze
  2019-08-24 13:22         ` Ludovic Courtès
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Jakob L. Kreuze @ 2019-07-13 17:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Ludovic Courtès; +Cc: 36517

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Heyo,

Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> writes:

> Oh, I see. To me that’s completely orthogonal to ‘guix deploy’ though,
> in that ‘guix system reconfigure’ and ‘guix deploy’ should use the
> same code for that.
>
> Thanks,
> Ludo’.

Yeah, I believe it would be safe to close this once the code for 'guix
deploy' and 'guix system reconfigure' is unified. I opened this under
the impression that the two would remain separate and individual changes
would need to occur for both.

Regards,
Jakob

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* bug#36517: 'guix deploy' does not restart services
  2019-07-13 17:14       ` Jakob L. Kreuze
@ 2019-08-24 13:22         ` Ludovic Courtès
  2019-08-24 17:44           ` Jakob L. Kreuze
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Ludovic Courtès @ 2019-08-24 13:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jakob L. Kreuze; +Cc: 36517

Hi Jakob,

zerodaysfordays@sdf.lonestar.org (Jakob L. Kreuze) skribis:

> Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> writes:
>
>> Oh, I see. To me that’s completely orthogonal to ‘guix deploy’ though,
>> in that ‘guix system reconfigure’ and ‘guix deploy’ should use the
>> same code for that.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ludo’.
>
> Yeah, I believe it would be safe to close this once the code for 'guix
> deploy' and 'guix system reconfigure' is unified. I opened this under
> the impression that the two would remain separate and individual changes
> would need to occur for both.

Unless I’m mistaken, this bug can be closed now, right?

Thanks,
Ludo’.

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* bug#36517: 'guix deploy' does not restart services
  2019-08-24 13:22         ` Ludovic Courtès
@ 2019-08-24 17:44           ` Jakob L. Kreuze
  2019-08-26  8:19             ` Ludovic Courtès
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Jakob L. Kreuze @ 2019-08-24 17:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Ludovic Courtès; +Cc: 36517

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Hi Ludovic,

Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> writes:

> Unless I’m mistaken, this bug can be closed now, right?

Yep! This can be closed now, since we're running the unified code and we
have another ticket for tracking this in 'guix system reconfigure'.

Regards,
Jakob

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* bug#36517: 'guix deploy' does not restart services
  2019-08-24 17:44           ` Jakob L. Kreuze
@ 2019-08-26  8:19             ` Ludovic Courtès
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Ludovic Courtès @ 2019-08-26  8:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jakob L. Kreuze; +Cc: 36517-done

zerodaysfordays@sdf.lonestar.org (Jakob L. Kreuze) skribis:

> Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> writes:
>
>> Unless I’m mistaken, this bug can be closed now, right?
>
> Yep! This can be closed now, since we're running the unified code and we
> have another ticket for tracking this in 'guix system reconfigure'.

Alrighty, done!

Ludo’.

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