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From: Tassilo Horn <tsdh@gnu.org>
To: carlmarcos@tutanota.com
Cc: Bruno Barbier <brubar.cs@gmail.com>, help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Making a function than can only be used interactively
Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2022 06:51:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8735fhlbee.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <N64hTYm--3-2@tutanota.com>

carlmarcos--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> writes:

>>> I do not want people to use the function non-interactively.
>>
>> How restrictive is that! :-)
>>
>> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
>> (defun only-interactive ()
>>  (interactive)
>>  (if (called-interactively-p 'interactive)
>>  42
>>  (error "You may not call me")))
>>
>> (only-interactive)
>> ;;=> Debugger entered--Lisp error: (error "You may not call me")
>>
>
> Focusing on the former two `(if (called-interactively-p 'interactive)` and
> `(only-interactive)`.  I would need some meatier examples.  
>
> Using `(if (called-interactively-p 'interactive)`, would I need to put
> the entire implementations inside the if `statement`?

Yes, the 42 would become a (progn ...).  Or just do

  (interactive)
  (unless (called-interactively-p 'interactive)
    (error "You may not call me from lisp"))

at the beginning of the defun followed by your "normal" code.

But please have a look at the docs for called-interactively-p which
explain why it's usually a bad idea, e.g., my only-interactive will for
example also signal an error when used in a keyboard macro.  And as my
examples pointed out, it's easy to circumvent your restriction.

The conventional recommended way to do what you want is to just document
in your commands docstring that it's not meant to be called from lisp
using a `(declare interactive-only)' spec.  Have a look at the docstring
and source code for `next-line' as an example.

HTH,
Tassilo



  reply	other threads:[~2022-07-04  4:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-07-03 19:16 Making a function than can only be used interactively carlmarcos--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-07-03 19:28 ` Bruno Barbier
     [not found] ` <N64WnlX--3-2@missing-mail-id>
2022-07-03 19:36   ` carlmarcos--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-07-03 19:53     ` Tassilo Horn
2022-07-03 20:17       ` carlmarcos--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-07-04  4:51         ` Tassilo Horn [this message]
2022-07-05 23:13       ` Emanuel Berg
2022-07-03 20:14     ` Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-07-03 20:27       ` carlmarcos--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-07-03 20:51       ` carlmarcos--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-07-03 21:18         ` Stefan Monnier
2022-07-03 21:29       ` carlmarcos--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-07-03 22:01         ` Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-07-03 22:45           ` carlmarcos--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-07-04  1:13             ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found]             ` <jwvczelllyq.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org-N65lQ2m----2>
2022-07-04 10:36               ` carlmarcos--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-07-04 10:55                 ` Tassilo Horn
2022-07-04 11:43                   ` Christopher Dimech
2022-07-04 13:21                     ` Stefan Monnier
2022-07-04 14:08                       ` Robert Pluim
2022-07-04 21:40                       ` Christopher Dimech
2022-07-05 17:35                         ` Jean Louis
2022-07-04 19:17                   ` carlmarcos--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-07-04 19:40                     ` Stefan Monnier
2022-07-04 19:50                       ` carlmarcos--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-07-04 20:45                         ` Stefan Monnier
2022-07-06  0:07                         ` Jean Louis
2022-07-06 20:00                           ` Christopher Dimech
2022-07-06 20:29                             ` Jean Louis
2022-07-07 11:03                               ` Christopher Dimech
2022-07-07 21:06                               ` carlmarcos--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-07-07 21:28                                 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-07-07 22:14                                   ` carlmarcos--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-07-08  3:40                                     ` Emanuel Berg
2022-07-08  6:08                                     ` Yuri Khan
2022-07-08  6:30                                       ` Emanuel Berg
2022-07-08  6:55                                         ` Yuri Khan
2022-07-08 11:44                                           ` carlmarcos--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-07-09  2:05                                             ` Emanuel Berg
2022-07-10  4:33                                             ` Emanuel Berg
2022-07-08 12:06                                           ` carlmarcos--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-07-08 12:11                                           ` Christopher Dimech
     [not found]                                           ` <N6Sh4jm--3-2@tutanota.com-N6ShCt5----2>
2022-07-08 12:18                                             ` carlmarcos--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-07-08 16:14                                           ` Christopher Dimech
2022-07-08 20:29                                             ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-07-08 21:09                                               ` carlmarcos--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-07-08 22:17                                                 ` Drew Adams
2022-07-08 22:34                                                   ` carlmarcos--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-07-09 14:53                                                     ` Drew Adams
2022-08-09  2:24                                                   ` Emanuel Berg
2022-07-09  2:06                                                 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-07-08 23:19                                               ` Emanuel Berg
2022-07-04 20:53                       ` Drew Adams
2022-07-05 23:30           ` no difference between interactive and "from Lisp" (was: Re: Making a function than can only be used interactively) Emanuel Berg
2022-07-06  2:28             ` no difference between interactive and "from Lisp" Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-07-06  3:42               ` Emanuel Berg
2022-07-04  1:06     ` Making a function than can only be used interactively Po Lu
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2022-07-04 19:32 Christopher Dimech
2022-07-04 20:10 Christopher Dimech
2022-07-04 20:35 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-07-04 20:46   ` Christopher Dimech
2022-07-04 21:18     ` Stefan Monnier
2022-07-04 21:59       ` Christopher Dimech
2022-07-05 22:34       ` carlmarcos--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-07-04 21:07 Christopher Dimech
2022-07-04 21:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-07-04 22:05   ` Christopher Dimech
2022-07-04 22:35     ` Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-07-04 23:33     ` Christopher Dimech
2022-07-04 23:42 Christopher Dimech

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