From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
"carlmarcos@tutanota.com" <carlmarcos@tutanota.com>
Cc: Tassilo Horn <tsdh@gnu.org>,
"help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org" <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
Subject: RE: [External] : Re: Making a function than can only be used interactively
Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2022 20:53:09 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <SJ0PR10MB5488EE6F9EA276A4396D2AADF3BE9@SJ0PR10MB5488.namprd10.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwv35fgisg1.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>
> > Only after byte-compile of a file?
> > So there is no way to actually make a function interactive only?
>
> Please define what it is you mean by "make a function interactive
> only".
>
> Do you mean that it should be illegal to write code that calls the
> function directly, so whoever writes it can be sued?
> Would it be acceptable for someone to just think about writing such
> code as long as they don't actually write it?
>
> More seriously, what are you trying to gain by "mak[ing] a function
> interactive only"? Usually, the reason why one might want to make
> a function "interactive only" is that code that calls this function is
> probably incorrect and would likely be served better by some
> other function. So the purpose is to help people write better code.
> For this reason the declaration only has an effect in terms of
> byte-compiler warnings: those who don't bother to byte-compile their
> code presumably don't care about the quality of their code anyway.
>
> Emacs doesn't offer any pre-defined way to really enforce that
> a function is only used interactively, and in large parts this is
> because, as a matter of design principle, Emacs makes no effort to stop
> people from shooting themselves in the foot (instead, it tries to make
> it easier for people not to shoot themselves in the foot).
Indeed.
(My crystal ball whispers there's an X-Y problem
under the covers here somewhere...)
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2022-07-03 19:16 Making a function than can only be used interactively carlmarcos--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-07-03 19:28 ` Bruno Barbier
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2022-07-04 11:43 ` Christopher Dimech
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2022-07-04 21:40 ` Christopher Dimech
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2022-07-06 0:07 ` Jean Louis
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2022-07-08 20:29 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
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2022-07-09 2:06 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-07-08 23:19 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-07-04 20:53 ` Drew Adams [this message]
2022-07-05 23:30 ` no difference between interactive and "from Lisp" (was: Re: Making a function than can only be used interactively) Emanuel Berg
2022-07-06 2:28 ` no difference between interactive and "from Lisp" Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-07-06 3:42 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-07-04 1:06 ` Making a function than can only be used interactively Po Lu
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2022-07-04 21:07 Christopher Dimech
2022-07-04 21:45 ` Stefan Monnier
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