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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: "'Help-Gnu-Emacs (help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org)'" <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
Cc: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Subject: FW: [External] : Re: Native compilation by default?: Was [Re: stats say SBCL is 78 875 % faster than natively compiled Elisp
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2023 16:14:14 +0000	[thread overview]
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In-Reply-To: jwv8rglm4oz.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org

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[Caveat: I haven't read the doc and am not familiar
 with native compilation.  Just commenting on what
 I see written here (which is without context).  If
 what I say helps, good; if not, please ignore.]

> > (byte-compile-file "fib.el" t)  ; doesn't work
> > (load-file "fib.elc")           ; doesn't work
> > (load "/dev/shm/fib.elc" nil nil t) ; doesn't work
> 
> We want the users to be able to load a `.elc` file even if a `.eln` file
> has been generated.  The way the users do that is by giving to
> `load` the file name *with* the `.elc` extension.  Of course, they can
> also load the `.eln` file by specifying that file explicitly as well.

If that's not already pointed out explicitly in the
doc, it would help to do so.  It can help _greatly_
to understand not only what happens but some of the
logic behind that design.  Once someone reads what
you wrote there, things are much clearer, I think.

> If you want to load "the most efficient option available", then just
> don't specify any extension, and Emacs will load the `.el`, `.elc`,
> or `.eln` file according to what it finds.

Again, please point that out explicitly (though this
one will be familiar to longtime Emacs users, as the
same logic has long existed for *.el and *.elc).

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-02-26 16:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-14  7:56 stats say SBCL is 78 875 % faster than natively compiled Elisp Emanuel Berg
2023-02-15  5:04 ` Chen Zhaoyang
2023-02-15 11:37   ` Emanuel Berg
2023-02-15  6:59 ` Jean Louis
2023-02-16  6:04   ` Emanuel Berg
2023-02-17 17:38     ` Jean Louis
2023-02-18 19:54       ` Emanuel Berg
2023-02-18 20:15         ` Emanuel Berg
2023-02-18 20:39           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-18 20:47             ` Emanuel Berg
2023-02-19  6:35               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-21  7:04                 ` Native compilation by default?: Was [Re: " Madhu
2023-02-21 12:37                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-21 16:35                     ` Emanuel Berg
2023-02-21 19:57                       ` Emanuel Berg
2023-02-21 22:21                       ` Native compilation by default? (was: Re: stats say SBCL is 78 875 % faster than natively compiled Elisp) Emanuel Berg
2023-02-21 23:54                         ` Emanuel Berg
     [not found]                           ` <87h6vetquk.fsf@dataswamp.org>
2023-02-22  1:47                             ` Emanuel Berg
2023-02-23 10:46                         ` Emanuel Berg
2023-02-23 20:18                           ` Jean Louis
2023-02-26  1:05                             ` Emanuel Berg
2023-02-22 12:32                       ` Native compilation by default?: Was [Re: stats say SBCL is 78 875 % faster than natively compiled Elisp Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-26  3:08                     ` Madhu
2023-02-26  4:32                       ` Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2023-02-26  5:15                         ` Emanuel Berg
2023-02-26  6:27                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-26  7:10                         ` Emanuel Berg
2023-02-26 16:14                         ` Drew Adams [this message]
2023-02-26 16:31                           ` FW: [External] : " Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-26 17:12                             ` Drew Adams
2023-02-26 17:31                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-26 18:29                                 ` Drew Adams
2023-02-26 19:04                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-26 20:05                                     ` Emanuel Berg
2023-02-27  8:42                         ` Madhu
2023-03-03 14:55                           ` Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2023-02-26  6:25                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-26 16:10                         ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2023-02-19  5:58         ` Jean Louis
2023-02-15 12:36 ` full native compile (was: Re: stats say SBCL is 78 875 % faster than natively compiled Elisp) Emanuel Berg
2023-02-15 14:05   ` Eli Zaretskii

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