From: Bob Newell <bobnewell@bobnewell.net>
To: "help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org" <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Debunking Emacs merits over GUI - Re: package for Email
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2023 11:10:51 -1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CADoYgq-f9wuRagRe+b4wpmWmHKM-uWd2UzW9MXryCtfLkb1oYA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230119161030.vt4muwcdvuwdqmj7@zoho.com>
> >Doug Engelbart invented mouse device for people to speed up with
> >work. Using mouse is just fine.
Certainly it is. But remember it is a matter of choice and user
preference. I find having to reach for the mouse and remove hands
from keyboard very disruptive.
> Yes you are right. I am biased here. Keyboard-centric is not merit, it
> is just a feature.
Again, depending on the point of vue of the user.
> >> - You can manipulate emails buffers just like normal text buffers.
Well, actually you can in GNUS and probably other Emacs clients.
Not to say Thunderbird isn't good. I actually think it's a very good
client. It is just not what I prefer as I like to stay within Emacs.
> >It is way too exaggerated and generalized statement. The "powerful
> >way" in any software comes with experience. To learn what you think is
> >powerful requires maybe decades.
This is something I've stressed before. Serious tools for craftsmen
require serious effort. No one starts out as a master craftsman.
Everyone starts as a novice. Does that mean that the tools of the
master are inferior because the novice is not yet skilled with them?
Hardly.
> But an average user won't use emacs as its text editor. An average user
> writes proses use MS Word.
And that's fine. To each his own.
> >About writing in "Org mode", there is no special advantage for people
> >who use e-mail unless those people are Emacs users. To draw somebody
> >to be Emacs user into Org mode is getting person in trouble.
I will again say something I've said before. Emacs is not for
everyone, and I don't mean that in an elitist sense. For many of us
it is an indispensible tool, which we've spent a long while learning
how to use to best advantage. For others it may just be a big bother
when simpler and easier tools may work just fine for their needs.
I am not out there telling people "learn Emacs" without first knowing
what their interests and inclinations may be. That indeed could be
unproductive. I think people who can make use of Emacs find their way
to it eventually.
--
Bob Newell
Honolulu, Hawai`i
Via Linux/Emacs/Gnus/BBDB.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-01-19 21:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-01-18 13:56 package for Email Gottfried
2023-01-18 14:44 ` Eric Brown
2023-01-18 15:15 ` Jean Louis
2023-01-19 7:31 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2023-01-19 7:55 ` Jean Louis
2023-01-18 15:51 ` Tassilo Horn
2023-01-18 17:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-18 17:58 ` andrés ramírez
2023-01-19 3:55 ` Jean Louis
2023-01-18 16:28 ` Andreas Eder
2023-01-18 18:03 ` Milan Glacier
2023-01-19 4:02 ` Jean Louis
2023-01-19 5:06 ` Debunking Emacs merits over GUI - " Jean Louis
2023-01-19 5:41 ` Emanuel Berg
2023-01-19 13:00 ` Jean Louis
2023-01-19 15:34 ` Marcin Borkowski
2023-01-20 8:27 ` Jean Louis
2023-01-19 16:10 ` Milan Glacier
2023-01-19 16:52 ` Jude DaShiell
2023-01-20 9:32 ` Jean Louis
2023-01-19 21:10 ` Bob Newell [this message]
2023-01-20 9:47 ` Jean Louis
[not found] ` <877cxgrc3e.mmmtqrm@thhcbmmmd.mijofcrcc.org>
2023-01-21 7:05 ` Jean Louis
2023-01-21 7:20 ` Emanuel Berg
2023-01-21 7:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-21 7:28 ` Emanuel Berg
2023-01-21 14:29 ` Jean Louis
2023-01-21 14:28 ` Jean Louis
2023-01-21 15:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-21 17:30 ` Bob Newell
2023-01-22 15:40 ` Jean Louis
2023-01-20 9:07 ` Jean Louis
2023-01-20 15:52 ` Milan Glacier
2023-01-21 6:04 ` History " David Masterson
2023-01-21 7:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-21 7:21 ` Emanuel Berg
2023-01-21 7:34 ` tomas
2023-01-21 17:38 ` Bob Newell
2023-01-22 3:16 ` David Masterson
2023-01-22 15:48 ` Jean Louis
2023-01-22 3:08 ` David Masterson
2023-01-22 6:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-22 19:33 ` David Masterson
2023-01-22 19:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-22 7:45 ` Po Lu
2023-01-22 19:35 ` David Masterson
2023-01-21 14:35 ` Jean Louis
2023-01-22 3:33 ` David Masterson
2023-03-10 17:16 ` Emanuel Berg
2023-03-13 8:32 ` Po Lu
2023-01-18 18:10 ` Filipp Gunbin
2023-01-19 2:15 ` Emanuel Berg
2023-01-19 12:40 ` Jean Louis
2023-01-19 14:10 ` Martin Steffen
2023-01-19 16:20 ` Eric S Fraga
2023-01-19 16:39 ` Jude DaShiell
2023-01-20 10:05 ` Jean Louis
2023-01-19 17:00 ` Leo Butler
2023-01-19 17:35 ` Eric S Fraga
2023-01-20 6:48 ` Milan Glacier
2023-01-19 3:53 ` Jean Louis
2023-01-19 6:08 ` John Haman
2023-01-19 11:52 ` Emanuel Berg
2023-01-21 13:57 ` Jean Louis
2023-01-21 15:08 ` Jude DaShiell
2023-01-21 17:47 ` Bob Newell
2023-01-22 3:46 ` David Masterson
2023-01-22 19:52 ` Bob Newell
2023-01-22 3:34 ` David Masterson
2023-01-31 5:46 ` Emanuel Berg
2023-01-20 4:09 ` Milan Glacier
2023-01-20 7:31 ` Emanuel Berg
2023-01-20 10:26 ` Jean Louis
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