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From: "Rudolf Adamkovič" <salutis@me.com>
To: Emacs developers <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Cc: Gabriel <gabriel376@hotmail.com>,
	Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net>,
	Yuri Khan <yuri.v.khan@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: On the adoption of transient.el
Date: Sun, 01 Aug 2021 22:19:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m2o8ag3okp.fsf@me.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87im1oy6mw.fsf@posteo.net>

Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net> writes:

> On the other hand something has always felt off about transient, 
> in the sense that it is breaking some expected behaviour or 
> couldn't pin-point yet, but just unconsciously stumble over. 

This is exactly how I feel about the "modern" interfaces in Emacs. 
I reported a bug in Embark recently, and because I could not 
select and copy the text, I ended up re-typing the text that was 
right in front of me in Emacs. Say what? For me, Emacs is a 
program where I expect to never waste time re-typing anything. 
Magit has a similar feel to it, and I can never be sure if the 
program will allow me to select text in the diverse parts of its 
user interface. In my opinion, such uncertainty is bad for power 
users. I would expect this from Apple or Microsoft software, 
because their latest “UX designers” surely know better than 
anyone, but in Emacs?

R+

-- 
Programming reliably --- must be an activity of an undeniably 
mathematical nature [...] You see, mathematics is about thinking, 
and doing mathematics is always trying to think as well as 
possible. -- Edsger W. Dijkstra (1981)  Rudolf Adamkovič 
<salutis@me.com> Studenohorská 25 84103 Bratislava Slovakia 
[he/him]



  reply	other threads:[~2021-08-01 20:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-07-03 21:13 On the adoption of transient.el Gabriel
2021-07-05 14:24 ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-07-05 16:09   ` Gabriel
2021-07-05 17:00     ` Stefan Monnier
2021-07-05 19:16       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-05 16:50   ` Yuri Khan
2021-07-05 17:06     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-05 17:29       ` Yuri Khan
2021-07-05 17:49         ` Stefan Monnier
2021-07-05 18:09     ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-08-01 20:19       ` Rudolf Adamkovič [this message]
2021-08-01 21:08         ` T.V Raman
2021-08-01 21:24         ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-03 13:07           ` Jonas Bernoulli
2021-08-03 20:00             ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-14  3:17             ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-14 12:54               ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-08-14 20:45                 ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-15 21:57                 ` John Yates
2021-08-16  1:05                   ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-16  1:35                   ` Stefan Monnier
2021-08-16  2:36                     ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-01 21:25         ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-04 11:22         ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-08-04 15:56           ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-08-04 18:56           ` T.V Raman
2021-08-04 19:57             ` Jesse Millwood
2021-08-04 21:45               ` T.V Raman
2021-08-05  7:01                 ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-05  8:59                   ` Eric S Fraga
2021-08-05  9:23                     ` Tim Cross
2021-08-05 10:37                       ` Eric S Fraga
2021-08-05 11:01                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-05 14:45                           ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-08-05 16:17                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-05 23:17                               ` Juri Linkov
2021-08-06  6:11                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-06  2:13                               ` Phil Sainty
2021-08-05 23:20                             ` Juri Linkov
2021-08-06 12:39                               ` John Yates
2021-08-06 14:42                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-08-06 17:20                                   ` Omar Polo
2021-08-10  7:22                                 ` Juri Linkov
2021-08-10 10:32                                   ` John Yates
2021-08-08  1:21                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-08-10  7:15                                 ` Juri Linkov
2021-08-10 12:40                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-08-11  6:58                                     ` Juri Linkov
2021-08-13  3:06                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-08-08  1:42                               ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-08-10  7:18                                 ` Juri Linkov
2021-08-10  8:16                                   ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-08-11  6:56                                     ` Juri Linkov
2021-08-05  9:38                     ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-05  9:51                       ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2021-08-05 14:33                     ` T.V Raman
2021-08-05 14:55                       ` Eric S Fraga
2021-08-05 15:05                       ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-06 23:02             ` Rudolf Adamkovič
2021-08-07  2:03               ` T.V Raman
2021-08-07  3:15               ` Phil Sainty
2021-08-07 10:19               ` Jonas Bernoulli
2021-08-07 15:42               ` T.V Raman
2021-07-05 19:51     ` Jim Porter
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2022-07-31  9:08 Manuel Uberti
2022-07-31 13:25 ` T.V Raman
2022-07-31 20:03 ` Juri Linkov
2022-08-21 16:04   ` Juri Linkov
2022-08-01  3:32 ` Richard Stallman

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