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From: Phil Sainty <psainty@orcon.net.nz>
To: "Rudolf Adamkovič" <salutis@me.com>
Cc: Gabriel <gabriel376@hotmail.com>,
	Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net>,
	Yuri Khan <yuri.v.khan@gmail.com>,
	Emacs developers <emacs-devel@gnu.org>,
	"T.V Raman" <raman@google.com>
Subject: Re: On the adoption of transient.el
Date: Sat, 07 Aug 2021 15:15:56 +1200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b109b78b8d6b7f0fc18f0a43f576aa8b@webmail.orcon.net.nz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m2czqqb2iz.fsf@me.com>

On 2021-08-07 11:02, Rudolf Adamkovič wrote:
> This is useful, thank you! C-n/C-p and C-s/C-r solved. Selection with
> C-SPC still does not work, e.g. one still cannot copy some text for a
> bug report or personal notes.

You actually can, but it seems unintentional.

It looks like the search functionality works by creating a new buffer
with the same contents, and if you exit the search in an unexpected
way it doesn't switch back to the actual transient buffer.  This then
leaves you in a regular buffer in which you can copy text etc, but
you then have to kill that buffer in order to return to the original
transient buffer (which looks identical).

E.g. in Magit

c         ;; 'commit' transent
C-s       ;; isearch
C-x h     ;; exit isearch and mark whole buffer
M-w       ;; copy
C-x k RET ;; kill searchable buffer
C-g       ;; exit transient buffer

This is confusing until you figure out what's going on, but I also
hope it can be retained as a feature in some fashion, because I agree
that it's nice to have an editable version of these buffers.


> Further, and I forgot to mention this in my original message, the new
> transient UI renders the help system, such as the glorious C-h k, 
> useless.

You get key help with '?'

E.g. in Magit

c    ;; 'commit' transient
?    ;; help for key
a    ;; shows *Help* for `magit-commit-amend'


-Phil




  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-08-07  3:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-07-03 21:13 On the adoption of transient.el Gabriel
2021-07-05 14:24 ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-07-05 16:09   ` Gabriel
2021-07-05 17:00     ` Stefan Monnier
2021-07-05 19:16       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-05 16:50   ` Yuri Khan
2021-07-05 17:06     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-05 17:29       ` Yuri Khan
2021-07-05 17:49         ` Stefan Monnier
2021-07-05 18:09     ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-08-01 20:19       ` Rudolf Adamkovič
2021-08-01 21:08         ` T.V Raman
2021-08-01 21:24         ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-03 13:07           ` Jonas Bernoulli
2021-08-03 20:00             ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-14  3:17             ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-14 12:54               ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-08-14 20:45                 ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-15 21:57                 ` John Yates
2021-08-16  1:05                   ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-16  1:35                   ` Stefan Monnier
2021-08-16  2:36                     ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-01 21:25         ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-04 11:22         ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-08-04 15:56           ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-08-04 18:56           ` T.V Raman
2021-08-04 19:57             ` Jesse Millwood
2021-08-04 21:45               ` T.V Raman
2021-08-05  7:01                 ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-05  8:59                   ` Eric S Fraga
2021-08-05  9:23                     ` Tim Cross
2021-08-05 10:37                       ` Eric S Fraga
2021-08-05 11:01                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-05 14:45                           ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-08-05 16:17                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-05 23:17                               ` Juri Linkov
2021-08-06  6:11                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-06  2:13                               ` Phil Sainty
2021-08-05 23:20                             ` Juri Linkov
2021-08-06 12:39                               ` John Yates
2021-08-06 14:42                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-08-06 17:20                                   ` Omar Polo
2021-08-10  7:22                                 ` Juri Linkov
2021-08-10 10:32                                   ` John Yates
2021-08-08  1:21                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-08-10  7:15                                 ` Juri Linkov
2021-08-10 12:40                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-08-11  6:58                                     ` Juri Linkov
2021-08-13  3:06                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-08-08  1:42                               ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-08-10  7:18                                 ` Juri Linkov
2021-08-10  8:16                                   ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-08-11  6:56                                     ` Juri Linkov
2021-08-05  9:38                     ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-05  9:51                       ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2021-08-05 14:33                     ` T.V Raman
2021-08-05 14:55                       ` Eric S Fraga
2021-08-05 15:05                       ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-06 23:02             ` Rudolf Adamkovič
2021-08-07  2:03               ` T.V Raman
2021-08-07  3:15               ` Phil Sainty [this message]
2021-08-07 10:19               ` Jonas Bernoulli
2021-08-07 15:42               ` T.V Raman
2021-07-05 19:51     ` Jim Porter
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2022-07-31  9:08 Manuel Uberti
2022-07-31 13:25 ` T.V Raman
2022-07-31 20:03 ` Juri Linkov
2022-08-21 16:04   ` Juri Linkov
2022-08-01  3:32 ` Richard Stallman

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