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From: Simon Josefsson <jas@extundo.com>
Subject: Re: Moving files from lisp/gnus/ to lisp/net/?
Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2004 21:31:47 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <iluwtx5z4y4.fsf@latte.josefsson.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 4nekjd9vqk.fsf@lifelogs.com

Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:

> On Fri, 29 Oct 2004, jas@extundo.com wrote:
>
>> It was added later on, not by me.  I suppose he who added it might
>> argue that it is useful, though.  I tend to think that there should
>> only be one worked out interface.  (I'm not saying the current API,
>> without p-r-a-a is the best interface, only that it would be better
>> with only one interface.)
>
> I added it for the purpose of decrypting a file, which is a one-shot
> deal.  If it fails, it fails - you don't try to reopen the file as you
> would a network connection, and you don't necessarily know that it
> failed (for example, the encrypt.el XOR cipher produces garbage with a
> bad password but otherwise there's no indication that there was an
> error).  The only problem is that the password is then memorized, so
> if it was bad it will stay around.
>
> Either I should add an option to ask y/n if the decryption was OK
> after the first time a password is entered, or I will give the user a
> way to clear a bad password.  Any other suggestions are welcome.
> Please note again that we don't necessarily know the decryption
> failed.  Maybe we should not memorize encryption passwords at all?
> That would be tedious, though, if you encrypt a lot of files with the
> same cipher...

I understand the problem.  One solution is to simply not use
encryption methods that doesn't provide integrity?  Then the
decryption process would know if the password worked or not.  I
believe that, in general, encryption mechanisms that do not offer
integrity protection are questionable.  The XOR key derivation from
password seem a bit fragile, too.  On the other hand, I realize that
only using GnuPG may create more work for the user.

  reply	other threads:[~2004-11-01 20:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 100+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-10-15 19:26 Moving files from lisp/gnus/ to lisp/net/? Simon Josefsson
2004-10-15 19:37 ` Simon Josefsson
2004-10-15 23:27   ` Miles Bader
2004-10-16  2:08     ` Ted Zlatanov
2004-10-16 13:52   ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-17 13:45     ` Simon Josefsson
2004-10-18 13:58       ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-24 12:24         ` Simon Josefsson
2004-10-25 13:13           ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-25 14:13             ` Simon Josefsson
2004-10-27 10:47               ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-27 19:08                 ` Simon Josefsson
2004-10-29  4:32                   ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-29 21:25                     ` Simon Josefsson
2004-11-01 20:09                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2004-11-01 20:31                         ` Simon Josefsson [this message]
2004-11-02 18:30                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2004-11-02 21:15                             ` Stefan Monnier
2007-11-02 15:02               ` Richard Stallman
2007-11-05 10:16                 ` Simon Josefsson
2007-11-06  8:38                   ` Richard Stallman
2007-11-06 14:01                     ` Daiki Ueno
2007-11-07  7:55                       ` Richard Stallman
2007-11-08  0:46                         ` Daiki Ueno
2007-11-08 17:40                           ` Richard Stallman
     [not found]                             ` <54a15d860711081633k364caf30r3b75464be8a060fa@mail.gmail.com>
2007-11-09 13:40                               ` Fwd: " Daiki Ueno
     [not found]                               ` <E1IqbtM-0003DR-P8@fencepost.gnu.org>
2007-11-10  4:53                                 ` Daiki Ueno
2007-11-10  7:07                                   ` Daiki Ueno
2007-11-10 20:03                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2007-11-11  0:04                                       ` Daiki Ueno
2007-11-11 19:33                                         ` Richard Stallman
2007-11-12  8:54                                           ` Daiki Ueno
2007-11-13  5:10                                             ` Richard Stallman
2007-11-14  3:45                                               ` Daiki Ueno
2007-11-14  5:44                                                 ` Michael Albinus
2007-11-14 14:54                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2007-11-14 15:13                                                     ` Michael Albinus
2007-11-14 17:30                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2007-11-15  3:08                                                     ` Richard Stallman
2007-11-15  3:47                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2007-11-16  4:28                                                         ` Richard Stallman
2007-11-15  0:23                                                 ` Miles Bader
2007-11-15  3:08                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2007-11-11  5:22                                     ` Richard Stallman
2007-11-10 19:53                   ` Tom Tromey
2004-10-15 20:05 ` Miles Bader
2004-10-15 21:15   ` Simon Josefsson
2004-10-16  7:43     ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2004-10-16 13:44       ` Miles Bader
2004-10-15 20:44 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-10-15 21:06   ` Simon Josefsson
2004-10-15 21:32   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2004-10-15 21:47     ` Simon Josefsson
2004-10-15 21:52     ` Stefan Monnier
2004-10-18  1:04     ` Miles Bader
2004-10-18 13:59       ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-20 10:27       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2004-10-20 10:50         ` Miles Bader
2004-10-20 11:22           ` Ralf Angeli
2004-10-20 11:39             ` Ralf Angeli
2004-10-21  1:09             ` Miles Bader
2004-10-20 11:32           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2004-10-20 11:56             ` Karl Fogel
2004-10-20 12:38               ` David Kastrup
2004-10-20 13:06                 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-10-20 12:34             ` David Kastrup
2004-10-21  1:28             ` Miles Bader
2004-10-21  5:03               ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2004-10-21  5:49                 ` Miles Bader
2004-10-21 10:05                 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-10-23  7:48                   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2004-10-25  1:02                     ` Miles Bader
2004-10-25 10:14                       ` Simon Josefsson
2004-10-25 17:46                         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2004-10-25 22:41                           ` Miles Bader
2004-10-27 17:21                             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2004-10-28  2:21                               ` Miles Bader
2004-10-26  7:28                           ` Kai Grossjohann
2004-10-27 17:21                             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2004-10-16 13:52 ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-18 17:54   ` Ted Zlatanov
2004-10-18 21:36     ` Reiner Steib
2004-10-21 18:45       ` Ted Zlatanov
2004-10-22  0:25         ` Miles Bader
2004-10-24 12:13           ` Simon Josefsson
2004-10-24 12:20             ` Miles Bader
2004-10-24 13:41               ` Simon Josefsson
2004-10-24 22:18                 ` Stefan
2004-10-25 10:08                   ` Simon Josefsson
2004-10-25 11:55                     ` Stefan
2004-10-25 13:07                       ` Simon Josefsson
2004-10-26  9:05                     ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-26  9:26                       ` Simon Josefsson
2004-10-19 16:45     ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-21 18:45       ` Ted Zlatanov
2004-10-23  4:49         ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-24 12:59   ` Simon Josefsson
2004-10-24 13:05   ` Move sha1.el and hex-util.el from lisp/gnus/ to lisp/net/ (was: Re: Moving files from lisp/gnus/ to lisp/net/?) Simon Josefsson
2004-10-25 13:13     ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-25 14:23       ` Move sha1.el and hex-util.el from lisp/gnus/ to lisp/net/ Simon Josefsson

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