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From: Simon Josefsson <jas@extundo.com>
Subject: Re: Moving files from lisp/gnus/ to lisp/net/?
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 14:59:28 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ilumzyc9sr3.fsf@latte.josefsson.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: E1CIoz9-00033N-Cc@fencepost.gnu.org

Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:

>     People seem to fear using some files in gnus/ because they think the
>     files might end up loading all of Gnus.  I believe moving some of the
>     self contained files in Gnus elsewhere would be good.  This would make
>     it clear that they aren't an intrinsic part of Gnus.  Not only would
>     it make it clear for elisp programmers, it would make it clear for us
>     working on Gnus.  I.e., to make sure we don't use Gnus functions in
>     some of the files.  I just modified pop3.el to revert one such
>     example.  It would be bad if many standalone files ended up loading
>     Gnus out of pure laziness.
>
> I agree completely.
>
> It makes a big difference for Emacs maintenance whether a file is part
> of Gnus or not.  If it is part of Gnus, it is maintained by the Gnus
> developers, so they might expect to be able to change it without
> looking at how the rest of Emacs uses it.

My impression is that Gnus developers do not need to be able to do
this now, with the new Emacs CVS and emacs-devel list.  And by
synchronizing the files better, it would be possible to avoid
accidental changes.  If anything, moving the files would make it more
likely that changes are reviewed by Emacs developers, which could
avoid some problems in the future.

> We need to consider them one by one, so please don't raise
> them as a big group.  Please propose one file or a few related
> files at a time, and we will think of them.
>
> Right now let's consider only those that there is a specific reason
> to move right now.

OK, I'll think about each file individually.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-10-24 12:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 100+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-10-15 19:26 Moving files from lisp/gnus/ to lisp/net/? Simon Josefsson
2004-10-15 19:37 ` Simon Josefsson
2004-10-15 23:27   ` Miles Bader
2004-10-16  2:08     ` Ted Zlatanov
2004-10-16 13:52   ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-17 13:45     ` Simon Josefsson
2004-10-18 13:58       ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-24 12:24         ` Simon Josefsson
2004-10-25 13:13           ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-25 14:13             ` Simon Josefsson
2004-10-27 10:47               ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-27 19:08                 ` Simon Josefsson
2004-10-29  4:32                   ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-29 21:25                     ` Simon Josefsson
2004-11-01 20:09                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2004-11-01 20:31                         ` Simon Josefsson
2004-11-02 18:30                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2004-11-02 21:15                             ` Stefan Monnier
2007-11-02 15:02               ` Richard Stallman
2007-11-05 10:16                 ` Simon Josefsson
2007-11-06  8:38                   ` Richard Stallman
2007-11-06 14:01                     ` Daiki Ueno
2007-11-07  7:55                       ` Richard Stallman
2007-11-08  0:46                         ` Daiki Ueno
2007-11-08 17:40                           ` Richard Stallman
     [not found]                             ` <54a15d860711081633k364caf30r3b75464be8a060fa@mail.gmail.com>
2007-11-09 13:40                               ` Fwd: " Daiki Ueno
     [not found]                               ` <E1IqbtM-0003DR-P8@fencepost.gnu.org>
2007-11-10  4:53                                 ` Daiki Ueno
2007-11-10  7:07                                   ` Daiki Ueno
2007-11-10 20:03                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2007-11-11  0:04                                       ` Daiki Ueno
2007-11-11 19:33                                         ` Richard Stallman
2007-11-12  8:54                                           ` Daiki Ueno
2007-11-13  5:10                                             ` Richard Stallman
2007-11-14  3:45                                               ` Daiki Ueno
2007-11-14  5:44                                                 ` Michael Albinus
2007-11-14 14:54                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2007-11-14 15:13                                                     ` Michael Albinus
2007-11-14 17:30                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2007-11-15  3:08                                                     ` Richard Stallman
2007-11-15  3:47                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2007-11-16  4:28                                                         ` Richard Stallman
2007-11-15  0:23                                                 ` Miles Bader
2007-11-15  3:08                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2007-11-11  5:22                                     ` Richard Stallman
2007-11-10 19:53                   ` Tom Tromey
2004-10-15 20:05 ` Miles Bader
2004-10-15 21:15   ` Simon Josefsson
2004-10-16  7:43     ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2004-10-16 13:44       ` Miles Bader
2004-10-15 20:44 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-10-15 21:06   ` Simon Josefsson
2004-10-15 21:32   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2004-10-15 21:47     ` Simon Josefsson
2004-10-15 21:52     ` Stefan Monnier
2004-10-18  1:04     ` Miles Bader
2004-10-18 13:59       ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-20 10:27       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2004-10-20 10:50         ` Miles Bader
2004-10-20 11:22           ` Ralf Angeli
2004-10-20 11:39             ` Ralf Angeli
2004-10-21  1:09             ` Miles Bader
2004-10-20 11:32           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2004-10-20 11:56             ` Karl Fogel
2004-10-20 12:38               ` David Kastrup
2004-10-20 13:06                 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-10-20 12:34             ` David Kastrup
2004-10-21  1:28             ` Miles Bader
2004-10-21  5:03               ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2004-10-21  5:49                 ` Miles Bader
2004-10-21 10:05                 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-10-23  7:48                   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2004-10-25  1:02                     ` Miles Bader
2004-10-25 10:14                       ` Simon Josefsson
2004-10-25 17:46                         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2004-10-25 22:41                           ` Miles Bader
2004-10-27 17:21                             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2004-10-28  2:21                               ` Miles Bader
2004-10-26  7:28                           ` Kai Grossjohann
2004-10-27 17:21                             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2004-10-16 13:52 ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-18 17:54   ` Ted Zlatanov
2004-10-18 21:36     ` Reiner Steib
2004-10-21 18:45       ` Ted Zlatanov
2004-10-22  0:25         ` Miles Bader
2004-10-24 12:13           ` Simon Josefsson
2004-10-24 12:20             ` Miles Bader
2004-10-24 13:41               ` Simon Josefsson
2004-10-24 22:18                 ` Stefan
2004-10-25 10:08                   ` Simon Josefsson
2004-10-25 11:55                     ` Stefan
2004-10-25 13:07                       ` Simon Josefsson
2004-10-26  9:05                     ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-26  9:26                       ` Simon Josefsson
2004-10-19 16:45     ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-21 18:45       ` Ted Zlatanov
2004-10-23  4:49         ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-24 12:59   ` Simon Josefsson [this message]
2004-10-24 13:05   ` Move sha1.el and hex-util.el from lisp/gnus/ to lisp/net/ (was: Re: Moving files from lisp/gnus/ to lisp/net/?) Simon Josefsson
2004-10-25 13:13     ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-25 14:23       ` Move sha1.el and hex-util.el from lisp/gnus/ to lisp/net/ Simon Josefsson

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