From: Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com>
Subject: Re: Moving files from lisp/gnus/ to lisp/net/?
Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2004 13:30:58 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4nfz3s6r31.fsf@lifelogs.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: iluwtx5z4y4.fsf@latte.josefsson.org
On Mon, 01 Nov 2004, jas@extundo.com wrote:
> I understand the problem. One solution is to simply not use
> encryption methods that doesn't provide integrity? Then the
> decryption process would know if the password worked or not.
We could do that, but I think it would be a loss to the users.
> I believe that, in general, encryption mechanisms that do not offer
> integrity protection are questionable. The XOR key derivation from
> password seem a bit fragile, too. On the other hand, I realize that
> only using GnuPG may create more work for the user.
There are many reasons why the XOR cipher is desirable - not the least
of which is that it depends on nothing and is very fast. Encryption
is just a deterrent, like any other kind of data security, so it makes
sense to have something trivial in addition to the real methods like
GnuPG.
You are right, however, that GnuPG can indicate that decryption
failed. So maybe some ciphers should have the property :fail-aware
and the code will do the passwords accordingly. Do you think this is
the right approach?
Ted
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-11-02 18:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 100+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-10-15 19:26 Moving files from lisp/gnus/ to lisp/net/? Simon Josefsson
2004-10-15 19:37 ` Simon Josefsson
2004-10-15 23:27 ` Miles Bader
2004-10-16 2:08 ` Ted Zlatanov
2004-10-16 13:52 ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-17 13:45 ` Simon Josefsson
2004-10-18 13:58 ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-24 12:24 ` Simon Josefsson
2004-10-25 13:13 ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-25 14:13 ` Simon Josefsson
2004-10-27 10:47 ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-27 19:08 ` Simon Josefsson
2004-10-29 4:32 ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-29 21:25 ` Simon Josefsson
2004-11-01 20:09 ` Ted Zlatanov
2004-11-01 20:31 ` Simon Josefsson
2004-11-02 18:30 ` Ted Zlatanov [this message]
2004-11-02 21:15 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-11-02 15:02 ` Richard Stallman
2007-11-05 10:16 ` Simon Josefsson
2007-11-06 8:38 ` Richard Stallman
2007-11-06 14:01 ` Daiki Ueno
2007-11-07 7:55 ` Richard Stallman
2007-11-08 0:46 ` Daiki Ueno
2007-11-08 17:40 ` Richard Stallman
[not found] ` <54a15d860711081633k364caf30r3b75464be8a060fa@mail.gmail.com>
2007-11-09 13:40 ` Fwd: " Daiki Ueno
[not found] ` <E1IqbtM-0003DR-P8@fencepost.gnu.org>
2007-11-10 4:53 ` Daiki Ueno
2007-11-10 7:07 ` Daiki Ueno
2007-11-10 20:03 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-11-11 0:04 ` Daiki Ueno
2007-11-11 19:33 ` Richard Stallman
2007-11-12 8:54 ` Daiki Ueno
2007-11-13 5:10 ` Richard Stallman
2007-11-14 3:45 ` Daiki Ueno
2007-11-14 5:44 ` Michael Albinus
2007-11-14 14:54 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-11-14 15:13 ` Michael Albinus
2007-11-14 17:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-11-15 3:08 ` Richard Stallman
2007-11-15 3:47 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-11-16 4:28 ` Richard Stallman
2007-11-15 0:23 ` Miles Bader
2007-11-15 3:08 ` Richard Stallman
2007-11-11 5:22 ` Richard Stallman
2007-11-10 19:53 ` Tom Tromey
2004-10-15 20:05 ` Miles Bader
2004-10-15 21:15 ` Simon Josefsson
2004-10-16 7:43 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2004-10-16 13:44 ` Miles Bader
2004-10-15 20:44 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-10-15 21:06 ` Simon Josefsson
2004-10-15 21:32 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2004-10-15 21:47 ` Simon Josefsson
2004-10-15 21:52 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-10-18 1:04 ` Miles Bader
2004-10-18 13:59 ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-20 10:27 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2004-10-20 10:50 ` Miles Bader
2004-10-20 11:22 ` Ralf Angeli
2004-10-20 11:39 ` Ralf Angeli
2004-10-21 1:09 ` Miles Bader
2004-10-20 11:32 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2004-10-20 11:56 ` Karl Fogel
2004-10-20 12:38 ` David Kastrup
2004-10-20 13:06 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-10-20 12:34 ` David Kastrup
2004-10-21 1:28 ` Miles Bader
2004-10-21 5:03 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2004-10-21 5:49 ` Miles Bader
2004-10-21 10:05 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-10-23 7:48 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2004-10-25 1:02 ` Miles Bader
2004-10-25 10:14 ` Simon Josefsson
2004-10-25 17:46 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2004-10-25 22:41 ` Miles Bader
2004-10-27 17:21 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2004-10-28 2:21 ` Miles Bader
2004-10-26 7:28 ` Kai Grossjohann
2004-10-27 17:21 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2004-10-16 13:52 ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-18 17:54 ` Ted Zlatanov
2004-10-18 21:36 ` Reiner Steib
2004-10-21 18:45 ` Ted Zlatanov
2004-10-22 0:25 ` Miles Bader
2004-10-24 12:13 ` Simon Josefsson
2004-10-24 12:20 ` Miles Bader
2004-10-24 13:41 ` Simon Josefsson
2004-10-24 22:18 ` Stefan
2004-10-25 10:08 ` Simon Josefsson
2004-10-25 11:55 ` Stefan
2004-10-25 13:07 ` Simon Josefsson
2004-10-26 9:05 ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-26 9:26 ` Simon Josefsson
2004-10-19 16:45 ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-21 18:45 ` Ted Zlatanov
2004-10-23 4:49 ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-24 12:59 ` Simon Josefsson
2004-10-24 13:05 ` Move sha1.el and hex-util.el from lisp/gnus/ to lisp/net/ (was: Re: Moving files from lisp/gnus/ to lisp/net/?) Simon Josefsson
2004-10-25 13:13 ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-25 14:23 ` Move sha1.el and hex-util.el from lisp/gnus/ to lisp/net/ Simon Josefsson
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