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From: Karl Fogel <kfogel@floss.red-bean.com>
Subject: Re: Moving files from lisp/gnus/ to lisp/net/?
Date: 20 Oct 2004 06:56:00 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <871xftd2nj.fsf@floss.red-bean.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m31xftwrp8.fsf@quimbies.gnus.org>

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
> Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org> writes:
> > I think this is generally considered a very bad thing to do.  It's
> >much safer (if less exciting) to just do the old cvs add+rm thing,
> >and make the first commit log in the new location "renamed from foo".
> 
> But then we lose the log.
> 
> > The reason it's bad, as I understand it, is that it essentially
> >changes history; I'm not entirely sure of the all the user-visible
> >repercussions, but I'm not sure I want to find out the hard way...
> 
> Hm...  I don't quite follow you.  The CVS tree is (almost) just a
> bunch of ,v files.

Miles's point is that by moving (or copying) a ,v file from one place
to another, we create a history in the new place that was not actually
there in reality.  For example, if there is a tag V1_RELEASE on a
revision in the ,v file, then someone attempting to check out the tree
as of the tag V1_RELEASE will get a file in a location that did
actually exist at the time the V1_RELEASE tag was made.  

(And if the ,v file was moved, instead of copied, the V1_RELEASE
checkout will fail to contain a file that it should contain!)

The usual solution is this:

   1. Manually *copy* the ,v file from the old place to the new place.

   2. Use 'cvs rm' to "remove" it from the old place (actually just
      marks the head revision as dead and puts the ,v file into CVS's
      Attic, thus preserving history)

That's a compromise.  It creates some new false history, but at least
it preserves all of the old history.  Old tags and branches will have
all the files they should have, they'll just have a bit more besides.

-Karl

  reply	other threads:[~2004-10-20 11:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 100+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-10-15 19:26 Moving files from lisp/gnus/ to lisp/net/? Simon Josefsson
2004-10-15 19:37 ` Simon Josefsson
2004-10-15 23:27   ` Miles Bader
2004-10-16  2:08     ` Ted Zlatanov
2004-10-16 13:52   ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-17 13:45     ` Simon Josefsson
2004-10-18 13:58       ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-24 12:24         ` Simon Josefsson
2004-10-25 13:13           ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-25 14:13             ` Simon Josefsson
2004-10-27 10:47               ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-27 19:08                 ` Simon Josefsson
2004-10-29  4:32                   ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-29 21:25                     ` Simon Josefsson
2004-11-01 20:09                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2004-11-01 20:31                         ` Simon Josefsson
2004-11-02 18:30                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2004-11-02 21:15                             ` Stefan Monnier
2007-11-02 15:02               ` Richard Stallman
2007-11-05 10:16                 ` Simon Josefsson
2007-11-06  8:38                   ` Richard Stallman
2007-11-06 14:01                     ` Daiki Ueno
2007-11-07  7:55                       ` Richard Stallman
2007-11-08  0:46                         ` Daiki Ueno
2007-11-08 17:40                           ` Richard Stallman
     [not found]                             ` <54a15d860711081633k364caf30r3b75464be8a060fa@mail.gmail.com>
2007-11-09 13:40                               ` Fwd: " Daiki Ueno
     [not found]                               ` <E1IqbtM-0003DR-P8@fencepost.gnu.org>
2007-11-10  4:53                                 ` Daiki Ueno
2007-11-10  7:07                                   ` Daiki Ueno
2007-11-10 20:03                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2007-11-11  0:04                                       ` Daiki Ueno
2007-11-11 19:33                                         ` Richard Stallman
2007-11-12  8:54                                           ` Daiki Ueno
2007-11-13  5:10                                             ` Richard Stallman
2007-11-14  3:45                                               ` Daiki Ueno
2007-11-14  5:44                                                 ` Michael Albinus
2007-11-14 14:54                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2007-11-14 15:13                                                     ` Michael Albinus
2007-11-14 17:30                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2007-11-15  3:08                                                     ` Richard Stallman
2007-11-15  3:47                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2007-11-16  4:28                                                         ` Richard Stallman
2007-11-15  0:23                                                 ` Miles Bader
2007-11-15  3:08                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2007-11-11  5:22                                     ` Richard Stallman
2007-11-10 19:53                   ` Tom Tromey
2004-10-15 20:05 ` Miles Bader
2004-10-15 21:15   ` Simon Josefsson
2004-10-16  7:43     ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2004-10-16 13:44       ` Miles Bader
2004-10-15 20:44 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-10-15 21:06   ` Simon Josefsson
2004-10-15 21:32   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2004-10-15 21:47     ` Simon Josefsson
2004-10-15 21:52     ` Stefan Monnier
2004-10-18  1:04     ` Miles Bader
2004-10-18 13:59       ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-20 10:27       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2004-10-20 10:50         ` Miles Bader
2004-10-20 11:22           ` Ralf Angeli
2004-10-20 11:39             ` Ralf Angeli
2004-10-21  1:09             ` Miles Bader
2004-10-20 11:32           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2004-10-20 11:56             ` Karl Fogel [this message]
2004-10-20 12:38               ` David Kastrup
2004-10-20 13:06                 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-10-20 12:34             ` David Kastrup
2004-10-21  1:28             ` Miles Bader
2004-10-21  5:03               ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2004-10-21  5:49                 ` Miles Bader
2004-10-21 10:05                 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-10-23  7:48                   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2004-10-25  1:02                     ` Miles Bader
2004-10-25 10:14                       ` Simon Josefsson
2004-10-25 17:46                         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2004-10-25 22:41                           ` Miles Bader
2004-10-27 17:21                             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2004-10-28  2:21                               ` Miles Bader
2004-10-26  7:28                           ` Kai Grossjohann
2004-10-27 17:21                             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2004-10-16 13:52 ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-18 17:54   ` Ted Zlatanov
2004-10-18 21:36     ` Reiner Steib
2004-10-21 18:45       ` Ted Zlatanov
2004-10-22  0:25         ` Miles Bader
2004-10-24 12:13           ` Simon Josefsson
2004-10-24 12:20             ` Miles Bader
2004-10-24 13:41               ` Simon Josefsson
2004-10-24 22:18                 ` Stefan
2004-10-25 10:08                   ` Simon Josefsson
2004-10-25 11:55                     ` Stefan
2004-10-25 13:07                       ` Simon Josefsson
2004-10-26  9:05                     ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-26  9:26                       ` Simon Josefsson
2004-10-19 16:45     ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-21 18:45       ` Ted Zlatanov
2004-10-23  4:49         ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-24 12:59   ` Simon Josefsson
2004-10-24 13:05   ` Move sha1.el and hex-util.el from lisp/gnus/ to lisp/net/ (was: Re: Moving files from lisp/gnus/ to lisp/net/?) Simon Josefsson
2004-10-25 13:13     ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-25 14:23       ` Move sha1.el and hex-util.el from lisp/gnus/ to lisp/net/ Simon Josefsson

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