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From: Simon Josefsson <jas@extundo.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: BIG5-HKSCS?
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 06:50:55 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ilubrrg4y0w.fsf@latte.josefsson.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200311130534.OAA04940@etlken.m17n.org> (Kenichi Handa's message of "Thu, 13 Nov 2003 14:34:07 +0900 (JST)")

Kenichi Handa <handa@m17n.org> writes:

> In article <iluislo9a7g.fsf@latte.josefsson.org>, Simon Josefsson <jas@extundo.com> writes:
>> Good enough for me.  Do you have an opinion on whether falling back to
>> BIG5 when BIG5-HKSCS is not available [in Gnus, for displaying
>> incoming e-mail in BIG-5HKSCS], is a reasonable behaviour?
>
>> I browsed the BIG5-HKSCS specification, and it appear to add lots of
>> characters (~1500) but it didn't seem to alter any
>
> Hmmm, if that is true, it's possbile to support it in the
> current Emacs.  Emacs repsents Big5 characters in two
> charsets chinese-big5-1 and chinese-big5-2 internally.  The
> former contains Big5 chars #xA140 .. #xC8FE, the latter
> #xC940..#xFEFE.  That means that chinese-big5-1 still has a
> room for that additional 1500 character.
>
>> , and I can't tell
>> whether the additions are critical or just rarely used symbols.  I
>> doubt rendering it as BIG5 is worse than QP, though, which is the
>> current behaviour.
>
> If BIG5-HKSCS surely just adds characters to BIG5, I think
> it is reasonable to fallback to BIG5.  But, as I wrote
> above, it seems possible to support the whole BIG5-HKSCS in
> the current Emacs with a faily small effort.   Could you
> please wait for a while?

I don't read Chinese, so I don't care much, but someone in
gnu.emacs.gnus might be happy. :-) I recall that the characters it
added was in the User-Defined and Vendor-Defined areas of BIG-5, so
making those mean BIG5-HKSCS could potentially conflict with other
BIG5 variants, though.

But all this is beyond my non-ASCII knowledge, so don't count on me to
test or provide any useful feedback.  I'll propose to add the
BIG5-HKSCS -> BIG5 alias to Gnus, though, for old Emacs.

Thanks for your work and prompt responses!

  reply	other threads:[~2003-11-13  5:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-11-12 16:11 BIG5-HKSCS? Simon Josefsson
2003-11-13  1:53 ` BIG5-HKSCS? Kenichi Handa
2003-11-13  4:14   ` BIG5-HKSCS? Simon Josefsson
2003-11-13  5:34     ` BIG5-HKSCS? Kenichi Handa
2003-11-13  5:50       ` Simon Josefsson [this message]
2003-11-13  4:49   ` BIG5-HKSCS? Simon Josefsson
2003-11-13  6:10     ` BIG5-HKSCS? Kenichi Handa
2003-11-13  6:51       ` BIG5-HKSCS? Simon Josefsson
2003-11-13  9:01         ` BIG5-HKSCS? Kenichi Handa
2003-11-13 13:29           ` BIG5-HKSCS? Oliver Scholz
2003-11-13 23:40             ` BIG5-HKSCS? Kenichi Handa
2003-11-14 13:35               ` BIG5-HKSCS? Oliver Scholz
2003-11-13 16:34           ` BIG5-HKSCS? Simon Josefsson
2003-11-14  0:47             ` eight-bit char handling in emacs-unicode Kenichi Handa
2003-11-14 13:25               ` Oliver Scholz
2003-11-15  1:09                 ` Kenichi Handa
2003-11-15 10:26                   ` Oliver Scholz
2003-11-15 21:47                     ` Simon Josefsson
2003-11-15  3:04               ` Simon Josefsson
2003-11-16 15:03                 ` Alex Schroeder
2003-11-17 21:17               ` Stefan Monnier
2003-11-18  7:33                 ` Kenichi Handa
2003-11-18 17:12                   ` Stefan Monnier
2003-11-19  0:06                     ` Kenichi Handa
2003-11-19  3:05                       ` Stefan Monnier
2003-11-19 10:46                         ` Juri Linkov
2003-11-19 13:48                           ` Stefan Monnier
2003-11-20 23:41                           ` Kenichi Handa
2003-11-21  0:41                         ` Kenichi Handa
2003-11-21  5:27                           ` Stefan Monnier
2003-11-21  6:27                             ` Kenichi Handa
2003-11-21 14:59                               ` Stefan Monnier
2003-11-22  1:25                                 ` Kenichi Handa
2003-11-22 23:53                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2003-11-23  7:30                                     ` Kenichi Handa
2003-11-23 23:48                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2003-11-25  1:07                                         ` Kenichi Handa
     [not found]                                           ` <jwvfzgcsbuv.fsf-monnier+emacs/devel@vor.iro.umontreal.ca>
2003-11-26  0:07                                             ` Kenichi Handa
2003-11-26 14:14                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2003-11-27  1:34                                                 ` Kenichi Handa
2003-11-27 14:23                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2003-12-01  0:43                                                     ` Kenichi Handa
2003-12-01 16:15                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2003-12-02 13:07                                                         ` Kenichi Handa
2003-12-02 16:06                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2003-11-25  4:28                                         ` Richard Stallman
     [not found]                                     ` <jwv7k1gtswz.fsf-monnier+emacs/devel@vor.iro.umontreal.ca>
2003-12-09 21:49                                       ` Richard Stallman
2003-11-15 22:32       ` BIG5-HKSCS? Simon Josefsson
2003-11-17  1:12         ` BIG5-HKSCS? Kenichi Handa
2003-11-17  2:06           ` BIG5-HKSCS? Simon Josefsson
2003-11-17  5:45             ` BIG5-HKSCS? Eli Zaretskii
2003-11-17  7:43               ` BIG5-HKSCS? Simon Josefsson
2003-11-18  7:01                 ` BIG5-HKSCS? Richard Stallman
2003-11-18  8:56                   ` BIG5-HKSCS? Simon Josefsson
2003-11-19  5:15                     ` BIG5-HKSCS? Richard Stallman
2003-11-20  5:48                       ` BIG5-HKSCS? Simon Josefsson
2003-11-20  5:56                         ` BIG5-HKSCS? Eli Zaretskii
2003-11-20  6:20                           ` BIG5-HKSCS? Simon Josefsson

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