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From: Kenichi Handa <handa@m17n.org>
Cc: jas@extundo.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: eight-bit char handling in emacs-unicode
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 10:25:36 +0900 (JST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200311220125.KAA20128@etlken.m17n.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvvfpdsrab.fsf-monnier+emacs/devel@vor.iro.umontreal.ca> (message from Stefan Monnier on 21 Nov 2003 09:59:59 -0500)

In article <jwvvfpdsrab.fsf-monnier+emacs/devel@vor.iro.umontreal.ca>, Stefan Monnier <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA> writes:
>>  It is perfectly possible to live in such an environment
>>  where only the charset iso-8859-1 is used but only the
>>  coding system utf-8 is used.  In this environment, the
>>  results of encode-coding-string and string-make-unibyte are
>>  of course not the same, but still both operations are
>>  meaningful.

> I see that encode-coding-string does the utf-8 encoding, but what
> does string-make-unibyte do in such a case and what is it used for ?

It gets iso-8859-1 code-points of all characters in a
multibyte string and concatenate them (the same as what is
does in latin-1 lang. env.).

In his environment, he has no problem in using unibyte
buffer because it can represent all characters he wants.

>>>  Until now, I always thought that Emacs only dealt with
>>>  - byte streams representing encoded sequences of code points: case 1.
>>>  - sequences of internal character codes (internally encoded in emacs-mule
>>>  or unicode depending on the branch you use): case 3.
>>>  Is there any place where we deal with sequences of code points of external
>>>  charsets really (other than in the degenerate case where such a sequence
>>>  is indistinguishable from case 1, maybe).

>>  I'd like to repeat that although we don't have such an
>>  environment now,

Ah, no, we have UTF-8 lang. env. now.

>> it doesn't mean it is impossible to assume such
>> environment.

> I guess I don't understand how that is possible (and useful) and what that
> would look like.

Please try C-x C-m L utf-8 RET and see how
string-make-unibyte and string-make-multibyte work.

---
Ken'ichi HANDA
handa@m17n.org

  reply	other threads:[~2003-11-22  1:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-11-12 16:11 BIG5-HKSCS? Simon Josefsson
2003-11-13  1:53 ` BIG5-HKSCS? Kenichi Handa
2003-11-13  4:14   ` BIG5-HKSCS? Simon Josefsson
2003-11-13  5:34     ` BIG5-HKSCS? Kenichi Handa
2003-11-13  5:50       ` BIG5-HKSCS? Simon Josefsson
2003-11-13  4:49   ` BIG5-HKSCS? Simon Josefsson
2003-11-13  6:10     ` BIG5-HKSCS? Kenichi Handa
2003-11-13  6:51       ` BIG5-HKSCS? Simon Josefsson
2003-11-13  9:01         ` BIG5-HKSCS? Kenichi Handa
2003-11-13 13:29           ` BIG5-HKSCS? Oliver Scholz
2003-11-13 23:40             ` BIG5-HKSCS? Kenichi Handa
2003-11-14 13:35               ` BIG5-HKSCS? Oliver Scholz
2003-11-13 16:34           ` BIG5-HKSCS? Simon Josefsson
2003-11-14  0:47             ` eight-bit char handling in emacs-unicode Kenichi Handa
2003-11-14 13:25               ` Oliver Scholz
2003-11-15  1:09                 ` Kenichi Handa
2003-11-15 10:26                   ` Oliver Scholz
2003-11-15 21:47                     ` Simon Josefsson
2003-11-15  3:04               ` Simon Josefsson
2003-11-16 15:03                 ` Alex Schroeder
2003-11-17 21:17               ` Stefan Monnier
2003-11-18  7:33                 ` Kenichi Handa
2003-11-18 17:12                   ` Stefan Monnier
2003-11-19  0:06                     ` Kenichi Handa
2003-11-19  3:05                       ` Stefan Monnier
2003-11-19 10:46                         ` Juri Linkov
2003-11-19 13:48                           ` Stefan Monnier
2003-11-20 23:41                           ` Kenichi Handa
2003-11-21  0:41                         ` Kenichi Handa
2003-11-21  5:27                           ` Stefan Monnier
2003-11-21  6:27                             ` Kenichi Handa
2003-11-21 14:59                               ` Stefan Monnier
2003-11-22  1:25                                 ` Kenichi Handa [this message]
2003-11-22 23:53                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2003-11-23  7:30                                     ` Kenichi Handa
2003-11-23 23:48                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2003-11-25  1:07                                         ` Kenichi Handa
     [not found]                                           ` <jwvfzgcsbuv.fsf-monnier+emacs/devel@vor.iro.umontreal.ca>
2003-11-26  0:07                                             ` Kenichi Handa
2003-11-26 14:14                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2003-11-27  1:34                                                 ` Kenichi Handa
2003-11-27 14:23                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2003-12-01  0:43                                                     ` Kenichi Handa
2003-12-01 16:15                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2003-12-02 13:07                                                         ` Kenichi Handa
2003-12-02 16:06                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2003-11-25  4:28                                         ` Richard Stallman
     [not found]                                     ` <jwv7k1gtswz.fsf-monnier+emacs/devel@vor.iro.umontreal.ca>
2003-12-09 21:49                                       ` Richard Stallman
2003-11-15 22:32       ` BIG5-HKSCS? Simon Josefsson
2003-11-17  1:12         ` BIG5-HKSCS? Kenichi Handa
2003-11-17  2:06           ` BIG5-HKSCS? Simon Josefsson
2003-11-17  5:45             ` BIG5-HKSCS? Eli Zaretskii
2003-11-17  7:43               ` BIG5-HKSCS? Simon Josefsson
2003-11-18  7:01                 ` BIG5-HKSCS? Richard Stallman
2003-11-18  8:56                   ` BIG5-HKSCS? Simon Josefsson
2003-11-19  5:15                     ` BIG5-HKSCS? Richard Stallman
2003-11-20  5:48                       ` BIG5-HKSCS? Simon Josefsson
2003-11-20  5:56                         ` BIG5-HKSCS? Eli Zaretskii
2003-11-20  6:20                           ` BIG5-HKSCS? Simon Josefsson

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