From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: rms@gnu.org, bugs@gnu.support, ulm@gentoo.org,
emacs-devel@gnu.org, ams@gnu.org, arthur.miller@live.com
Subject: Re: Org schemas we talked to be non-free, was: [ELPA] New package: repology.el
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2021 00:55:42 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <cfd5f34f-4277-ddd8-e60c-ecd6dbc2304a@yandex.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <834kj31wyy.fsf@gnu.org>
On 26.01.2021 18:31, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>>>>> There are several methods available for that, but the simplest one is
>>>>> to define new elements using the ones defined in the original schema.
>>>> Wouldn't that make it a derivative work?
>>> I don't know. What if it does?
>> The original schema's license can impose restrictions on that.
> Does it, though?
The OASIS schemas we're talking about have a license blurb that starts
with "All right reserved", and then only mentiones permissions to do
derivative works "that comment on or otherwise explain it or assist in
its implementation", which doesn't seem to cover derivative schemas for,
say, experimentation.
Of course, many cases could be covered by Fair Use, and even those that
don't, the likelihood of being sued is vanishingly low, and the main
goal of theirs seems to be to avoid being misrepresented by others (e.g.
by removing the authorship or keeping it but changing the contents
somehow maliciously), but as a matter of license, permission for
arbitrary derivative works seems absent.
IANAL, consult your lawyer, etc.
> And if it does, how useful is such a schema?
Just as a way to describe a certain fixed format, I guess?
The wording of their rules seems pretty bureaucratic. It seems you need
to join OASIS (or work in a company that is part of it) to safely
contribute to any new version of the format. Which is disappointing.
Again, IANAL, and perhaps there are some better explanations in their
policy somewhere on the website. I just could find them so far.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-01-26 22:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 145+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-12-30 16:23 [ELPA] New package: repology.el Nicolas Goaziou
2020-12-30 19:34 ` Jean Louis
2020-12-30 21:01 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2020-12-31 13:31 ` Jean Louis
2020-12-31 11:46 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-12-31 13:11 ` Jean Louis
2020-12-31 20:30 ` Ulrich Mueller
2021-01-01 7:31 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-01 10:05 ` Jean Louis
2021-01-01 11:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-02 9:56 ` Jean Louis
2021-01-02 5:30 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-04 12:09 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-04 14:39 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-01-04 15:00 ` Ulrich Mueller
2021-01-04 16:32 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-01-05 6:45 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-05 8:56 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-01-07 7:34 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-04 15:02 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-04 16:29 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-01-04 17:08 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-04 17:12 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-01-04 17:17 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-04 17:58 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-01-04 17:43 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2021-01-04 17:55 ` Vasilij Schneidermann
2021-01-04 18:51 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2021-01-04 22:21 ` Vasilij Schneidermann
2021-01-05 2:09 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-05 6:42 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-05 9:28 ` Ulrich Mueller
2021-01-06 5:03 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-06 9:44 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-01-07 17:51 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-04 19:14 ` Ulrich Mueller
2021-01-04 19:17 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2021-01-06 5:02 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-06 10:58 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-06 14:41 ` Jean Louis
2021-01-06 14:59 ` Arthur Miller
2021-01-06 15:21 ` Jean Louis
2021-01-06 16:23 ` Arthur Miller
2021-01-06 18:53 ` Jean Louis
2021-01-06 19:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-06 21:18 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2021-01-06 21:25 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-07 7:47 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-07 8:54 ` Jean Louis
2021-01-07 14:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-07 7:49 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-07 11:41 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-09 6:39 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-09 10:50 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-07 14:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-07 8:15 ` Jean Louis
2021-01-07 14:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-06 20:36 ` Arthur Miller
2021-01-07 7:48 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-07 16:53 ` Arthur Miller
2021-01-14 5:21 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-15 14:52 ` Arthur Miller
2021-01-16 5:14 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-07 7:49 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-07 9:00 ` Jean Louis
2021-01-08 6:21 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-07 10:55 ` Ulrich Mueller
2021-01-09 6:34 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-09 21:07 ` Ulrich Mueller
2021-01-11 4:46 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-12 8:24 ` Ulrich Mueller
2021-01-20 6:14 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-21 11:09 ` Ulrich Mueller
2021-01-22 6:06 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-22 9:43 ` Ulrich Mueller
2021-01-24 6:35 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-24 8:34 ` Ulrich Mueller
2021-01-25 5:53 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-25 6:52 ` Jean Louis
2021-01-25 12:11 ` Fabrice BAUZAC-STEHLY
2021-01-25 15:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-27 7:37 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-25 15:51 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-25 17:59 ` Jean Louis
2021-01-25 18:21 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-26 3:40 ` Jean Louis
2021-01-26 6:10 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-26 13:42 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-27 18:32 ` Jean Louis
2021-01-25 19:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-25 19:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-26 13:21 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-26 5:59 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-26 13:15 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-27 7:41 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-24 10:53 ` Org schemas we talked to be non-free, was: " Jean Louis
2021-01-24 17:50 ` Ulrich Mueller
2021-01-24 19:12 ` Jean Louis
2021-01-24 19:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-24 20:36 ` Ulrich Mueller
2021-01-25 15:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-26 6:01 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-26 15:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-26 16:03 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-26 16:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-26 16:14 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-26 16:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-26 22:55 ` Dmitry Gutov [this message]
2021-01-28 6:29 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-28 14:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-29 6:36 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-24 20:47 ` Jean Louis
2021-01-25 15:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-25 17:50 ` Jean Louis
2021-01-25 17:56 ` Jean Louis
2021-01-25 19:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-26 3:50 ` Jean Louis
2021-01-26 6:09 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-25 20:10 ` Ulrich Mueller
2021-01-25 20:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-26 6:09 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-25 5:53 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-25 15:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-24 20:46 ` tomas
2021-01-27 7:35 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-25 5:53 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-25 9:27 ` Ulrich Mueller
2021-01-26 6:03 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-26 9:24 ` Ulrich Mueller
2021-01-27 7:43 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-26 15:43 ` Jose A. Ortega Ruiz
2021-01-26 16:48 ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2021-01-28 6:34 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-25 5:51 ` Richard Stallman
2021-02-16 5:21 ` freedom issues in free software Richard Stallman
2021-01-07 15:05 ` [ELPA] New package: repology.el Stefan Monnier
2021-01-13 15:57 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-05 6:33 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-05 11:21 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-07 7:32 ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-30 21:58 ` [ELPA] New package: repology.el (v2) Nicolas Goaziou
2021-01-04 11:45 ` [ELPA] New package: repology.el (v3) Nicolas Goaziou
2021-01-04 17:32 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-01-19 9:50 ` [ELPA] New package: repology.el (v4) Nicolas Goaziou
2021-01-20 6:13 ` Richard Stallman
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