unofficial mirror of emacs-devel@gnu.org 
 help / color / mirror / code / Atom feed
From: Dmitry Gutov <dmitry@gutov.dev>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: joaotavora@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Stability of core packages (was: Not easy at all to upgrade :core packages like Eglot)
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2023 00:25:55 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a6a77365-2386-5fa5-c6c3-f05de36d4e58@gutov.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <831qke5zar.fsf@gnu.org>

On 20/04/2023 18:49, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2023 18:30:47 +0300
>> Cc:joaotavora@gmail.com,emacs-devel@gnu.org
>> From: Dmitry Gutov<dmitry@gutov.dev>
>>
>> When you say "keeping core packages only on ELPA", what do you mean exactly?
> That core packages will be only in elpa.git, not in emacs.git.  Then
> we'd "bundle" them with Emacs when preparing the release tarballs.

Okay then, though I'd call them just "bundled" packages from that point. 
Since "core" is an ELPA term for packages developed inside emacs.git.

That separation could also be considered a win, saving time for some of 
the developers. Which could make up for the extra overhead with managing 
stable tags.

> I believe this is a long-term plan wrt core packages.  It was even
> discussed a couple of times here.

Note that to do the above, we don't really have to implement this stuff 
as a feature in Emacs (as a UI in package.el), or in elpa-admin. At 
least not right away.

As long as we've agreed on a principle to choose releases to tag as 
stable, we could just write those git revision down somewhere (using git 
tags, or some text file in the Emacs repo, or a text file on a server 
somewhere, ...). And then use that info when bundling the packages.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-04-20 21:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <87a5zj2vfo.fsf@gmail.com>
     [not found] ` <83wn2h5825.fsf@gnu.org>
     [not found]   ` <87wn2gkhzr.fsf@posteo.net>
     [not found]     ` <83cz485oxi.fsf@gnu.org>
     [not found]       ` <87leiwdyff.fsf@posteo.net>
     [not found]         ` <834jpk5hih.fsf@gnu.org>
     [not found]           ` <871qkom3fj.fsf@posteo.net>
     [not found]             ` <83mt3b4yfc.fsf@gnu.org>
     [not found]               ` <87edonlsxi.fsf@posteo.net>
     [not found]                 ` <83jzyf4vzb.fsf@gnu.org>
     [not found]                   ` <871qknllkj.fsf@posteo.net>
     [not found]                     ` <83fs934pjf.fsf@gnu.org>
     [not found]                       ` <87wn2fk47y.fsf@posteo.net>
     [not found]                         ` <83sfd2g2ek.fsf@gnu.org>
     [not found]                           ` <875y9yfxrr.fsf@gmail.com>
     [not found]                             ` <CALDnm50-Su4SAGDSBiLjt0yrjrVsvyW71NSMi=zt7uHgv7rdng@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                               ` <87y1muefks.fsf@gmail.com>
     [not found]                                 ` <CALDnm50b6hRu+4EFqQDVydOF07HdiZT4nHA=aLDjYQKtMBTk2Q@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                                   ` <fc2ed4a0-2368-682d-e34d-5cf94ac261fc@gutov.dev>
     [not found]                                     ` <CALDnm527Avsa-MBTD-bvRqOn52AeBLfPvffxjL-NB3tqM=43ZQ@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                                       ` <834jpifizy.fsf@gnu.org>
     [not found]                                         ` <CALDnm53X5Yyn_EitG+iHJVx=RO2hjNaWkrgPz0+jKVWVM=eEBQ@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                                           ` <83y1mue1qi.fsf@gnu.org>
     [not found]                                             ` <CALDnm51hmRMxstQdZdstA2LrbvYw=zD5=XRVy6uCU=Z+OmONRg@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                                               ` <83sfd2e01f.fsf@gnu.org>
     [not found]                                                 ` <1a5e5837-513b-84d8-3260-cdbf42b71267@gutov.dev>
     [not found]                                                   ` <83sfcz9rf2.fsf@gnu.org>
     [not found]                                                     ` <09a49ab9-ac72-36a9-3e68-9c633710eba7@gutov.dev>
2023-04-18 12:57                                                       ` Stability of core packages (was: Not easy at all to upgrade :core packages like Eglot) Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-18 14:02                                                         ` João Távora
2023-04-18 14:47                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-18 15:45                                                             ` João Távora
2023-04-18 16:19                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-18 17:49                                                                 ` João Távora
2023-04-18 21:19                                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-18 18:56                                                         ` Jim Porter
2023-04-18 19:21                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-18 19:36                                                             ` Jim Porter
2023-04-19 11:55                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-19  8:50                                                           ` João Távora
2023-04-19 12:13                                                             ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-04-19 17:03                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-19 17:21                                                                 ` João Távora
2023-04-19 18:07                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-19 18:14                                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-19 18:32                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-19 19:33                                                                         ` João Távora
2023-04-20  4:26                                                                           ` tomas
2023-04-19 19:39                                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-19 19:46                                                                           ` João Távora
2023-04-19 20:50                                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-19 20:57                                                                               ` João Távora
2023-04-19 21:58                                                                                 ` Jim Porter
2023-04-19 22:29                                                                                   ` João Távora
2023-04-19 22:42                                                                                     ` Jim Porter
2023-04-19 22:58                                                                                       ` João Távora
2023-04-19 22:06                                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-19 22:21                                                                                   ` Jim Porter
2023-04-19 22:27                                                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-19 22:43                                                                                       ` Jim Porter
     [not found]                                                                                 ` <f32d7008-ea39-a9d7-8224-2c5b969236b7@gutov.dev>
     [not found]                                                                                   ` <CALDnm53vPnODxpv_=nvOHRjLX-PfhyTS0MFudR0qZ3Pa-Lw-AQ@mail.gmail.com>
2023-04-19 23:25                                                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-20  0:13                                                                                       ` João Távora
2023-04-20  1:13                                                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-20  1:49                                                                                           ` João Távora
2023-04-20  2:04                                                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-19 19:15                                                                     ` João Távora
2023-04-20  9:38                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-20  9:48                                                                         ` João Távora
2023-04-20 11:47                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-20 12:00                                                                             ` João Távora
2023-04-20 12:16                                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-20 12:24                                                                                 ` João Távora
2023-04-19 17:35                                                                 ` John Yates
2023-04-19 17:42                                                                   ` João Távora
2023-04-19 18:02                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-19 18:04                                                                 ` Jim Porter
2023-04-19 18:34                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-19 19:35                                                                     ` Jim Porter
2023-04-20  9:49                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-19 19:40                                                                 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2023-04-20  6:02                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-29  5:21                                                                     ` Stability of core packages emacs
2023-04-29  6:26                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-29 21:47                                                                         ` Mohsen BANAN
2023-04-30  6:21                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-30  9:07                                                                           ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-30 13:12                                                                           ` Corwin Brust
2023-05-07  5:58                                                                             ` Mohsen BANAN
2023-05-05  4:36                                                                       ` David Masterson
2023-05-05  4:56                                                                       ` David Masterson
     [not found]                                                                       ` <878re3bdj6.fsf@penguin>
2023-05-05  4:59                                                                         ` David Masterson
2023-04-19 12:55                                                             ` Stability of core packages (was: Not easy at all to upgrade :core packages like Eglot) Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-19 13:18                                                               ` João Távora
2023-04-19 13:44                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-19 14:13                                                                   ` João Távora
2023-04-18 22:10                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-19  8:34                                                           ` João Távora
2023-04-19 12:47                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-19 18:22                                                             ` Jim Porter
2023-04-19 18:37                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-19 19:32                                                                 ` Jim Porter
2023-04-19 22:51                                                                 ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-04-20 13:47                                                                   ` history of ELPA packages and dependencies (was: Stability of core packages (was: Not easy at all to upgrade :core packages like Eglot)) Lynn Winebarger
2023-04-20 13:58                                                                   ` Stability of core packages (was: Not easy at all to upgrade :core packages like Eglot) Lynn Winebarger
2023-04-19 19:25                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-19 19:40                                                               ` João Távora
2023-04-20  9:47                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-20 13:03                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-20 14:03                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-20 14:22                                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-20 14:42                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-20 15:30                                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-04-20 15:49                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-20 17:26                                                                             ` Stability of core packages Philip Kaludercic
2023-04-20 18:46                                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-20 21:25                                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov [this message]
2023-04-21 14:12                                                                             ` Stability of core packages (was: Not easy at all to upgrade :core packages like Eglot) Lynn Winebarger
2023-04-19 12:31                                                         ` What is :core? (was: Stability of core packages (was: Not easy at all to upgrade :core packages like Eglot)) Lynn Winebarger
2023-04-19 12:57                                                           ` João Távora
2023-04-19 13:03                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

  List information: https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=a6a77365-2386-5fa5-c6c3-f05de36d4e58@gutov.dev \
    --to=dmitry@gutov.dev \
    --cc=eliz@gnu.org \
    --cc=emacs-devel@gnu.org \
    --cc=joaotavora@gmail.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
Code repositories for project(s) associated with this public inbox

	https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git

This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for read-only IMAP folder(s) and NNTP newsgroup(s).