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From: Noel Taylor <noeltaylo@gmail.com>
To: Karl Fogel <kfogel@red-bean.com>
Cc: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Emacs undo behavior frustrating for new users.
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 01:11:08 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <EFC06187-AF8B-4001-878C-62D872E9B261@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <874ldnajq7.fsf@red-bean.com>



> On Oct 14, 2018, at 11:59 PM, Karl Fogel <kfogel@red-bean.com> wrote:
> 
> Noel, want to try binding `undo-only' to replace your normal `undo` keybindings and see if that provides a behavior that seems more natural to you?

Haha not really at this point. I would have loved to in my first few months of using emacs, but by now I don't think it will feel any more natural to me now than it would to you. 

> (And see how much you miss not having `undo-redo'... That probably wouldn't be very hard to implement, but I'm conspicuously not volunteering until we have a sense of how badly it would be missed by someone who is accustomed to having it.)

Ah but I'm long past being accustomed to having it now. If I tried to do my job using the MS Word style undo I'm sure that for me personally - it would be more a hindrance than a help. Such a change could well be useful to new emacs users, but I'm no longer one of those.

But I'm still very glad to learn that "undo-only" exists! Thank you, Stefan for pointing that out. And I will try it out at some point - probably not when I'm using emacs for work though. 

N



  reply	other threads:[~2018-10-15  6:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-09-08  3:49 delete-selection-mode as default (WAS: Some developement questions) Bingo
2018-09-08  7:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-09-08  8:33   ` Bingo
2018-09-08  9:26     ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-09-09 13:13       ` Alan Mackenzie
2018-09-09 14:53         ` Drew Adams
2018-09-09 15:12         ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-09-09 17:59         ` Ergus
2018-09-09 19:12           ` Alan Mackenzie
2018-09-09 22:33             ` Ergus
2018-09-09 23:34               ` Drew Adams
2018-09-11  4:22 ` Richard Stallman
2018-10-14 16:07   ` Emacs undo behavior frustrating for new users. (WAS: delete-selection-mode as default) Karl Fogel
2018-10-14 18:42     ` Emacs undo behavior frustrating for new users Stefan Monnier
2018-10-15  4:59       ` Karl Fogel
2018-10-15  6:11         ` Noel Taylor [this message]
2018-10-15  5:43     ` Emacs undo behavior frustrating for new users. (WAS: delete-selection-mode as default) Richard Stallman
2018-10-15  7:28       ` Van L
2018-10-16  6:44         ` Richard Stallman
2018-10-17 10:09           ` Nathan Moreau
2018-10-17 10:38             ` Emacs undo behavior frustrating for new users Andreas Schwab
2018-10-18  7:23               ` Richard Stallman
2018-10-17 12:00             ` Garreau, Alexandre
2018-10-17 14:05               ` Nathan Moreau
2018-10-17 14:20                 ` Garreau, Alexandre
2018-10-17 14:33               ` Yuri Khan
2018-10-17 16:06                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-10-18  7:23                 ` Richard Stallman
2018-10-15  8:26       ` Emacs undo behavior frustrating for new users. (WAS: delete-selection-mode as default) Yuri Khan
2018-10-16  6:44         ` Richard Stallman
2018-10-16  7:22           ` Yuri Khan
2018-10-17  7:05             ` Richard Stallman
2018-10-20  8:15           ` Marcin Borkowski
2018-10-20 18:33             ` Elias Mårtenson
2018-10-15  7:54     ` Joost Kremers
2018-10-15  9:27       ` Joost Kremers
2018-10-15 12:01       ` Emacs undo behavior frustrating for new users Óscar Fuentes
2018-10-15 13:28         ` Joost Kremers
2018-10-16 12:27           ` Stefan Monnier
2018-10-17  7:05             ` Richard Stallman

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