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From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
To: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com>
Cc: philipk@posteo.net, hanno@hoowl.se, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [ELPA] New package: jami-bot and org-jami-bot
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2024 22:03:31 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1rOqmZ-0002Ht-AL@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADwFkmnOCbDgudj9TYaVkpxouR9yxEkfe-68crXsX+ET9QKKag@mail.gmail.com> (message from Stefan Kangas on Thu, 11 Jan 2024 12:12:20 -0800)

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  > I never used the word "trivial" in this thread, I don't think.

  > This is what I said:

  >     "Without the org parts, there's nothing there.

I apologize for misquoting you.  I didn't realize I was doing so.
(I still don't entirely understand the difference.)

Maybe you're saying that it is that the package's Org-related parts
are spread all through it?

I will look at the code today and I suppose I will then get the point.

                                                        To change it 'not to
  >     require org' amounts to writing another package from scratch."

Maybe that's what's needed, then.  The crucial thing is that this
feature "Jami capture" not be limited to Org mode.  But any reasonable way
of doing it is ok -- that level is not what the issue is about.

  > > It would not be the first time.  There are various other features that
  > > were integrated into Org mode and there is no way to use them from
  > > Emacs except via Org mode.  It is a general design flaw, taking Emacs
  > > overall in a bad direction.

  > Sure, but you might be preaching to the choir here.  There is already
  > broad agreement on this point.

That sounds like great news.  I have not seen any of it yet, so I hope
I will see it in last week's backlog of mail.

I spent many hours writing the code for cond*, which is mostly
working.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-01-14  3:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-12-28 11:21 [ELPA] New package: jami-bot and org-jami-bot Hanno Perrey
2023-12-28 21:33 ` Stefan Kangas
2023-12-29 14:08   ` Hanno Perrey
2023-12-30  3:20 ` Richard Stallman
2023-12-30 10:29   ` Hanno Perrey
2024-01-01  3:34     ` Richard Stallman
2023-12-30 12:15   ` [DISCUSSION] Possible inclusion of org-capture.el into Emacs core (was: [ELPA] New package: jami-bot and org-jami-bot) Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-30 17:43     ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-01  3:34     ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-01  3:59     ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-01 14:05       ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-30 12:43   ` [DISCUSSION] org-capture.el vs remember.el " Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-30 17:20     ` Stefan Kangas
2023-12-30 19:16       ` João Távora
2023-12-30 19:19         ` João Távora
2023-12-31 18:05         ` Adam Porter
2024-01-07 21:01 ` [ELPA] New package: jami-bot and org-jami-bot Stefan Kangas
2024-01-08 21:08   ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-08 21:29     ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-09  3:30     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-09  4:42       ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-10  4:24         ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-10  5:36           ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-10  4:24       ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-11 15:30         ` ELPA packages and Org mode integration (was: [ELPA] New package: jami-bot and org-jami-bot) Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-09 19:39   ` [ELPA] New package: jami-bot and org-jami-bot Philip Kaludercic
2024-01-11 18:51     ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-11 20:12       ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-12  7:24         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-12 12:38           ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-12 13:59             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-12 14:13               ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-12 14:37                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-12 14:45                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-12 15:04                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-12 15:17                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-14  3:03         ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-14  3:03         ` Richard Stallman [this message]
2024-01-14  9:58           ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-14 10:25             ` Emanuel Berg
2024-01-14 11:43               ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-14 10:47             ` Emanuel Berg
2024-01-17  3:29             ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-31  3:34             ` Richard Stallman
2024-02-03  9:28               ` Hanno Perrey
2024-01-15  3:12           ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-12 15:04       ` Hanno Perrey
2024-01-16  3:31         ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-17  8:00           ` Hanno Perrey
2024-01-12 14:58     ` Hanno Perrey
2024-01-14 18:46     ` Hanno Perrey
2024-01-15  7:06       ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-01-17  7:59         ` Hanno Perrey
2024-01-17 23:39           ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-01-20 14:46             ` Hanno Perrey

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