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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>
Cc: stefankangas@gmail.com, rms@gnu.org, philipk@posteo.net,
	hanno@hoowl.se, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [ELPA] New package: jami-bot and org-jami-bot
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2024 15:59:03 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83y1cuirfc.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87y1cupw0g.fsf@localhost> (message from Ihor Radchenko on Fri, 12 Jan 2024 12:38:07 +0000)

> From: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>
> Cc: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com>, rms@gnu.org, philipk@posteo.net,
>  hanno@hoowl.se, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2024 12:38:07 +0000
> 
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> 
> >> ...  The Org maintainers themselves proposed
> >> some features (org-protocol and org-capture) that are good candidates to
> >> separate from Org in this very thread.
> >
> > What about ox-* packages?  Could they be converted to more
> > generally-useful export capabilities for Emacs?
> 
> Kind of. ox-* packages mostly rely on ox.el capabilities + Org mode
> parsed representation. ox.el is also relying on the parsed
> representation, except a few places.

Yes, I know.  And that is the problem I'm pointing to: export
capabilities should ideally not depend on a specific parser, let alone
an Org-specific one.  Because export capabilities can be beneficial in
much more places in Emacs than just Org buffers.

> If someone writes a parser that can understand alternative, non-Org
> markup of source files, and produce org-element-ast.el-compatible list
> structure, most of the ox-* exporters should remain functional.

It would be better to allow alternative data structures to be input to
the export functionality, rather than expect other features to mimic
the Org parser and its outputs.



  reply	other threads:[~2024-01-12 13:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-12-28 11:21 [ELPA] New package: jami-bot and org-jami-bot Hanno Perrey
2023-12-28 21:33 ` Stefan Kangas
2023-12-29 14:08   ` Hanno Perrey
2023-12-30  3:20 ` Richard Stallman
2023-12-30 10:29   ` Hanno Perrey
2024-01-01  3:34     ` Richard Stallman
2023-12-30 12:15   ` [DISCUSSION] Possible inclusion of org-capture.el into Emacs core (was: [ELPA] New package: jami-bot and org-jami-bot) Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-30 17:43     ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-01  3:34     ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-01  3:59     ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-01 14:05       ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-30 12:43   ` [DISCUSSION] org-capture.el vs remember.el " Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-30 17:20     ` Stefan Kangas
2023-12-30 19:16       ` João Távora
2023-12-30 19:19         ` João Távora
2023-12-31 18:05         ` Adam Porter
2024-01-07 21:01 ` [ELPA] New package: jami-bot and org-jami-bot Stefan Kangas
2024-01-08 21:08   ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-08 21:29     ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-09  3:30     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-09  4:42       ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-10  4:24         ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-10  5:36           ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-10  4:24       ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-11 15:30         ` ELPA packages and Org mode integration (was: [ELPA] New package: jami-bot and org-jami-bot) Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-09 19:39   ` [ELPA] New package: jami-bot and org-jami-bot Philip Kaludercic
2024-01-11 18:51     ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-11 20:12       ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-12  7:24         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-12 12:38           ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-12 13:59             ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2024-01-12 14:13               ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-12 14:37                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-12 14:45                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-12 15:04                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-12 15:17                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-14  3:03         ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-14  3:03         ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-14  9:58           ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-14 10:25             ` Emanuel Berg
2024-01-14 11:43               ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-14 10:47             ` Emanuel Berg
2024-01-17  3:29             ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-31  3:34             ` Richard Stallman
2024-02-03  9:28               ` Hanno Perrey
2024-01-15  3:12           ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-12 15:04       ` Hanno Perrey
2024-01-16  3:31         ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-17  8:00           ` Hanno Perrey
2024-01-12 14:58     ` Hanno Perrey
2024-01-14 18:46     ` Hanno Perrey
2024-01-15  7:06       ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-01-17  7:59         ` Hanno Perrey
2024-01-17 23:39           ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-01-20 14:46             ` Hanno Perrey

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