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From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
To: sds@gnu.org
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: case-insensitive string comparison
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2022 23:24:43 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1oGBBb-00075O-Tj@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <lz1qu92rvh.fsf@3c22fb11fdab.ant.amazon.com> (message from Sam Steingold on Mon, 25 Jul 2022 10:23:30 -0400)

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  > So, how do we do case-insensitive string comparison in Emacs?

Users could do it by calling `compare-strings' directly.

  > It is okay to add a `string-equal-ignore-case' based on `compare-strings'?
  > (even though it does not recognize "SS" and "ß" as equal)

A function `string-equal-ignore-case' would make sense.  My question is,
is it worth the cost in complexity, or is it better to urge users to call
`compare-strings' directly?

That depends on how often programs will do case-insensitive string comparison.
If frequently, that gives a bigger upside to `string-equal-ignore-case'.

  > Or should we first implement something like casefold in Python?
  > https://docs.python.org/3/library/stdtypes.html#str.casefold

That casefold operation is not the same thing as ignoring case in
Emacs.  How to integrate something like that into Emacs, and in
general how to handle `ß' properly in case conversion, calls for more
thought.

It's possible that Python's handling is good, that we should implement
something similar.  It would be useful for people to study that option
including designing how to put it into Emacs, and whether the results
would be problem-free.

Part of the issue is how this should affect the existing case features
including searches in the buffer, case conversion commands and functions,
and `compare-strings'.  Also how it interacts with Turkish.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-07-26  3:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-07-19 17:27 case-insensitive string comparison Sam Steingold
2022-07-19 18:06 ` Mattias Engdegård
2022-07-19 18:56   ` Sam Steingold
2022-07-20  4:39     ` tomas
2022-07-20 11:35       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-20 13:30         ` tomas
2022-07-19 18:16 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-07-19 19:39 ` Roland Winkler
2022-07-19 22:47   ` Sam Steingold
2022-07-20  2:21     ` Roland Winkler
2022-07-20  3:01     ` Stefan Monnier
2022-07-20 16:22       ` Sam Steingold
2022-07-25 14:23         ` Sam Steingold
2022-07-25 15:58           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-25 19:39             ` Sam Steingold
2022-07-26 13:05               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-26 14:16                 ` Sam Steingold
2022-07-26 15:53                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-26 16:00                     ` Sam Steingold
2022-07-26 16:16                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-07-26 14:43                 ` Robert Pluim
2022-07-25 19:37           ` Bruno Haible
2022-07-26  3:24           ` Richard Stallman [this message]
2022-07-26  8:00             ` Helmut Eller
2022-07-26 12:21               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-27  2:58               ` Richard Stallman
2022-07-31  8:24                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-26 14:28             ` Sam Steingold
2022-07-26 15:42               ` Sam Steingold
2022-07-26 16:10               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-26 18:56                 ` Bruno Haible
2022-07-26 19:30                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-20 16:24       ` Roland Winkler
2022-07-20 17:06         ` Sam Steingold
2022-07-20 17:16           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-20 17:12         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-20 17:37           ` Roland Winkler
2022-07-20 17:50             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-20 18:10               ` Roland Winkler
2022-07-20 18:16                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-20 18:18                   ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-07-21  6:56                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-21 14:19                     ` Roland Winkler
2022-07-21 15:53                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-21 16:35                         ` Roland Winkler

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