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From: Roland Winkler <winkler@gnu.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca,  emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: case-insensitive string comparison
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2022 13:10:35 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8735evlko4.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83fsivlllz.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 20 Jul 2022 20:50:16 +0300")

On Wed, Jul 20 2022, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> Even mentioning the difficulties could be useful here.
>
> I'm not sure I agree.  To describe all the important aspects of this
> would take too long, and it isn't the job of our manual to document
> this stuff.  Read this if you want to know:
>
>   https://unicode.org/reports/tr10/

A footnote pointing the interested reader to this report could already
be useful.  I am not suggesting to try to provide a more exhaustive
discussion of this topic.  I am suggesting to mention briefly that the
topic is subtle and depends on details "beyond emacs itself".

>> I am not sure I can follow your argument.  Do you suggest that, likely,
>> BBDB will work best if it compares names using compare-strings?
>
> Yes.

Thanks, that's already good to know!

> But in addition, you should set up the case table of the current
> buffer when you do so, because otherwise special cases with the likes
> of the Turkish language's dotless I could in rare cases screw you.
>
>> (I'd be glad to hear that.)  This code should work for users who do not
>> want to build their own case table and stuff like that.
>
> Not the users should build the case table, BBDB (or whatever Lisp
> program that needs the comparison) should.  It's not that hard,
> really: if you only need ASCII, use ascii-case-table, otherwise copy
> the standard case-table and modify it to make sure I downcases to i
> and similarly with a few other exceptional letters.

I am not sure it would be possible to predict how a default case table
for BBDB should differ from the standard case table.  BBDB might be the
only package of a user that accumulates strings that go beyond what
otherwise a user is dealing with regularly.  If there is a sensible
"BBDB default case table" I'd hope that this is the standard case table.

Or if not: can you suggest an emacs package that I can look into as a
source of inspiration?



  reply	other threads:[~2022-07-20 18:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-07-19 17:27 case-insensitive string comparison Sam Steingold
2022-07-19 18:06 ` Mattias Engdegård
2022-07-19 18:56   ` Sam Steingold
2022-07-20  4:39     ` tomas
2022-07-20 11:35       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-20 13:30         ` tomas
2022-07-19 18:16 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-07-19 19:39 ` Roland Winkler
2022-07-19 22:47   ` Sam Steingold
2022-07-20  2:21     ` Roland Winkler
2022-07-20  3:01     ` Stefan Monnier
2022-07-20 16:22       ` Sam Steingold
2022-07-25 14:23         ` Sam Steingold
2022-07-25 15:58           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-25 19:39             ` Sam Steingold
2022-07-26 13:05               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-26 14:16                 ` Sam Steingold
2022-07-26 15:53                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-26 16:00                     ` Sam Steingold
2022-07-26 16:16                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-07-26 14:43                 ` Robert Pluim
2022-07-25 19:37           ` Bruno Haible
2022-07-26  3:24           ` Richard Stallman
2022-07-26  8:00             ` Helmut Eller
2022-07-26 12:21               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-27  2:58               ` Richard Stallman
2022-07-31  8:24                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-26 14:28             ` Sam Steingold
2022-07-26 15:42               ` Sam Steingold
2022-07-26 16:10               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-26 18:56                 ` Bruno Haible
2022-07-26 19:30                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-20 16:24       ` Roland Winkler
2022-07-20 17:06         ` Sam Steingold
2022-07-20 17:16           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-20 17:12         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-20 17:37           ` Roland Winkler
2022-07-20 17:50             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-20 18:10               ` Roland Winkler [this message]
2022-07-20 18:16                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-20 18:18                   ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-07-21  6:56                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-21 14:19                     ` Roland Winkler
2022-07-21 15:53                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-21 16:35                         ` Roland Winkler

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