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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Roland Winkler <winkler@gnu.org>
Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: case-insensitive string comparison
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2022 21:16:12 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83czdzlker.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8735evlko4.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Roland Winkler on Wed, 20 Jul 2022 13:10:35 -0500)

> From: Roland Winkler <winkler@gnu.org>
> Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca,  emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2022 13:10:35 -0500
> 
> On Wed, Jul 20 2022, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> >> Even mentioning the difficulties could be useful here.
> >
> > I'm not sure I agree.  To describe all the important aspects of this
> > would take too long, and it isn't the job of our manual to document
> > this stuff.  Read this if you want to know:
> >
> >   https://unicode.org/reports/tr10/
> 
> A footnote pointing the interested reader to this report could already
> be useful.

I'll see if we have a good place for that.

> > Not the users should build the case table, BBDB (or whatever Lisp
> > program that needs the comparison) should.  It's not that hard,
> > really: if you only need ASCII, use ascii-case-table, otherwise copy
> > the standard case-table and modify it to make sure I downcases to i
> > and similarly with a few other exceptional letters.
> 
> I am not sure it would be possible to predict how a default case table
> for BBDB should differ from the standard case table.  BBDB might be the
> only package of a user that accumulates strings that go beyond what
> otherwise a user is dealing with regularly.  If there is a sensible
> "BBDB default case table" I'd hope that this is the standard case table.

Maybe BBDB can just use the standard case table, I don't know.  You
should be the judge of that: if your users don't care with I not being
equal to i case-insensitively, when the language-environment happens
to be Turkish, then you shouldn't worry about that.

> Or if not: can you suggest an emacs package that I can look into as a
> source of inspiration?

I'm not aware of any (which is not to say there isn't any, just that I
don't know).



  reply	other threads:[~2022-07-20 18:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-07-19 17:27 case-insensitive string comparison Sam Steingold
2022-07-19 18:06 ` Mattias Engdegård
2022-07-19 18:56   ` Sam Steingold
2022-07-20  4:39     ` tomas
2022-07-20 11:35       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-20 13:30         ` tomas
2022-07-19 18:16 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-07-19 19:39 ` Roland Winkler
2022-07-19 22:47   ` Sam Steingold
2022-07-20  2:21     ` Roland Winkler
2022-07-20  3:01     ` Stefan Monnier
2022-07-20 16:22       ` Sam Steingold
2022-07-25 14:23         ` Sam Steingold
2022-07-25 15:58           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-25 19:39             ` Sam Steingold
2022-07-26 13:05               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-26 14:16                 ` Sam Steingold
2022-07-26 15:53                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-26 16:00                     ` Sam Steingold
2022-07-26 16:16                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-07-26 14:43                 ` Robert Pluim
2022-07-25 19:37           ` Bruno Haible
2022-07-26  3:24           ` Richard Stallman
2022-07-26  8:00             ` Helmut Eller
2022-07-26 12:21               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-27  2:58               ` Richard Stallman
2022-07-31  8:24                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-26 14:28             ` Sam Steingold
2022-07-26 15:42               ` Sam Steingold
2022-07-26 16:10               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-26 18:56                 ` Bruno Haible
2022-07-26 19:30                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-20 16:24       ` Roland Winkler
2022-07-20 17:06         ` Sam Steingold
2022-07-20 17:16           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-20 17:12         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-20 17:37           ` Roland Winkler
2022-07-20 17:50             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-20 18:10               ` Roland Winkler
2022-07-20 18:16                 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2022-07-20 18:18                   ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-07-21  6:56                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-21 14:19                     ` Roland Winkler
2022-07-21 15:53                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-07-21 16:35                         ` Roland Winkler

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