From: ams@gnu.org (Alfred M. Szmidt)
To: Ergus <spacibba@aol.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, akrl@sdf.org
Subject: Re: Changes for emacs 28
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 2020 01:57:04 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1kFA9I-0000kU-OL@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200906222008.qtpxy65f3updclgh@Ergus> (message from Ergus on Mon, 7 Sep 2020 00:20:08 +0200)
There will be never an agreement about changing defaults with long
standing users. (I can't understand the strong feeling about that
because some/most of the choices we have today were actually determined
by historic/technological conditions more than user preferences)
You are mixing up several different changes, which makes it difficult
to explain why sometimes. Please take it one default at a time.
Could we provide a simple command line option like "emacs -m" (or any
letter not in use) which automatically loads a set of extra
"experimental" defaults not suitable for older users??
If that mode is significantly different (e.g, CUA mode) from
"standard" emacs then it will be difficult to point users to the
documentation, or that the documentation will have to have many
caveats.
(the same as emacs -l modern.el but shorter) Like a different
theme, line numbers, show-paren mode, and any other "modern"
feature a newbie expects in a 2020 editor?
Why are the things you suggest not suitable for experienced users, but
suitable for new users? You do not explain why, and you come up with
more suggestions in each new message. Before enabling, or disabling a
feature one should have a reason to do so.
I do not think that new users expect any of those things you have
listed (show-paren-mode, display-line-numbers-mode or a different
theme); from my experience when teaching new users they want just get
stuff done. The first thing they tend to miss in my experience is
getting navigation setup, or auto-completion since many editors come
with that out of the box.
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2020-09-06 13:37 ` Changes for emacs 28 Ergus
2020-09-06 14:44 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-09-06 15:00 ` Elias Mårtenson
2020-09-06 15:43 ` Óscar Fuentes
2020-09-06 17:07 ` Ergus
2020-09-06 18:11 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-09-06 18:32 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-09-07 2:17 ` chad
2020-09-07 18:16 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-09-09 18:35 ` Tim Van den Langenbergh
2020-09-09 20:47 ` Ergus
2020-09-06 20:49 ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-06 22:20 ` Ergus
2020-09-07 2:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-07 5:57 ` Alfred M. Szmidt [this message]
2020-09-08 2:55 ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-07 6:54 ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-07 7:37 ` tomas
2020-09-08 0:50 ` Elias Mårtenson
2020-09-08 7:40 ` tomas
2020-09-07 13:02 ` Bastien
2020-09-06 14:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-06 16:34 ` Ergus
2020-09-06 18:22 ` Yuan Fu
2020-09-06 19:32 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-09-06 20:38 ` Ergus
2020-09-06 21:30 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-07 8:38 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2020-09-07 9:37 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-07 10:14 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2020-09-07 10:28 ` Joost Kremers
2020-09-07 18:07 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-09-09 18:33 ` Juri Linkov
2020-09-06 21:51 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-09-06 22:01 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
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2020-09-06 22:32 ` Caio Henrique
2020-09-07 2:12 ` Jose A. Ortega Ruiz
2020-09-07 10:13 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-07 12:44 ` Jose A. Ortega Ruiz
2020-09-07 13:23 ` Eric S Fraga
2020-09-06 22:37 ` Daniel Martín
2020-09-07 0:10 ` Eduardo Ochs
2020-09-07 1:22 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-09-07 10:26 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-07 2:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-07 12:31 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-07 12:45 ` tomas
2020-09-07 13:05 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-07 14:03 ` Ergus
2020-09-07 14:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-08 2:57 ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-07 15:37 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-07 15:54 ` Ergus
2020-09-07 16:43 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-09-07 21:04 ` Eduardo Ochs
2020-09-07 22:07 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-08 9:43 ` Robert Pluim
2020-09-08 2:58 ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-07 7:46 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-09 11:22 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-09 15:04 ` Göktuğ Kayaalp
2020-09-09 15:44 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-09 16:19 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-09 17:30 ` Ergus
2020-09-11 4:13 ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-11 9:18 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-09-10 1:48 ` Pankaj Jangid
2020-09-09 16:01 ` Ergus
2020-09-10 3:55 ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-09-09 17:01 ` Philip K.
2020-09-11 4:16 ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-11 7:32 ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-09-11 10:36 ` Ergus
2020-09-11 10:55 ` Philip K.
2020-09-11 11:13 ` Ergus
2020-09-11 12:12 ` Philip K.
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2020-09-11 12:42 ` Ergus
2020-09-11 15:59 ` Jose A. Ortega Ruiz
2020-09-12 3:21 ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-12 8:00 ` Göktuğ Kayaalp
2020-09-13 4:07 ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-11 10:52 ` Arthur Miller
2020-09-11 11:52 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2020-09-12 12:11 ` Arthur Miller
2020-09-12 12:15 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2020-09-12 13:24 ` Arthur Miller
2020-09-09 16:15 ` Drew Adams
2020-09-10 12:00 ` Robert Pluim
2020-09-10 12:26 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-10 12:52 ` Robert Pluim
2020-09-10 13:04 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-10 13:39 ` Robert Pluim
2020-09-10 14:16 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-10 14:51 ` Robert Pluim
2020-09-10 14:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-10 14:56 ` Robert Pluim
2020-09-10 15:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-10 15:28 ` Robert Pluim
2020-09-10 18:22 ` Drew Adams
2020-09-10 17:46 ` Drew Adams
2020-09-10 17:51 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
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2020-09-09 16:23 ` Drew Adams
2020-09-09 18:36 ` Juri Linkov
2020-09-10 18:15 ` Juri Linkov
2020-09-10 2:38 ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-07 13:58 ` Yoni Rabkin
2020-09-07 14:25 ` Ergus
2020-09-07 15:19 ` Yoni Rabkin
2020-09-07 16:31 ` Ergus
2020-09-08 8:34 ` Mario Lang
2020-09-08 2:57 ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-08 4:13 ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-09-08 4:53 ` Drew Adams
2020-09-08 5:33 ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-09-08 7:26 ` tomas
2020-09-08 15:50 ` Drew Adams
2020-09-09 4:19 ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-09-09 14:35 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-09-09 15:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-09 15:39 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-09-09 16:01 ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-09-10 11:32 ` Eric S Fraga
2020-09-10 11:42 ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-09-08 9:17 ` Tramp defaults (was: Changes for emacs 28) Michael Albinus
2020-09-08 11:08 ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-09-08 15:50 ` Tramp defaults Michael Albinus
2020-09-09 3:44 ` Changes for emacs 28 Richard Stallman
2020-09-09 5:38 ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-09-10 2:41 ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-08 10:21 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-09 3:44 ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-07 8:58 ` João Távora
2020-09-08 2:59 ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-08 3:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-08 3:54 ` joke (was: Changes for emacs 28) andres.ramirez
2020-09-08 7:28 ` tomas
2020-09-08 8:00 ` joke Ulrich Mueller
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2020-09-09 3:44 ` joke (was: Changes for emacs 28) Richard Stallman
2020-09-08 11:13 ` Changes for emacs 28 João Távora
2020-09-08 11:45 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-09-09 3:44 ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-06 15:06 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-09-06 16:35 ` Ergus
2020-09-06 16:54 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-06 17:14 ` Ergus
2020-09-06 18:11 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-09-06 19:05 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-06 21:52 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-09-07 8:48 ` Changes for emacs 28 - ibuffer the default buffer-listing thing João Távora
2020-09-08 8:25 ` Changes for emacs 28 Mario Lang
2020-09-08 14:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-08 14:51 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-08 15:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2020-09-08 16:56 ` Drew Adams
2020-09-08 22:06 ` Dmitry Gutov
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2020-09-10 19:16 ` Dmitry Gutov
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2020-09-09 17:14 ` Philip K.
2020-09-10 9:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2020-09-11 7:50 ` Tassilo Horn
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2020-09-07 9:31 Boruch Baum
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