From: Jared Finder via "Emacs development discussions." <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Additional cleanup around xterm-mouse
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2020 09:21:10 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <9668a5ae6418bad910d833c95b8d04b9@finder.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83lfdopiqy.fsf@gnu.org>
On 2020-12-23 8:52 am, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2020 15:27:10 -0800
>> From: Jared Finder <jared@finder.org>
>> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
>>
>> >> I like #3 as existing code would run unchanged. The chance that any
>> >> existing code passed 'all-fallbacks is extremely low. And anyone
>> >> supporting
>> >> a package outside of Emacs passing some other value will notice the
>> >> message
>> >> when they upgrade to Emacs 28.
>> >>
>> >> Thoughts?
>> >
>> > By order of preference, I'd say: #1, then #3 and finally #2.
>> > But any one of those 3 is OK for me.
>>
>> Sounds good to me! Eli, do you have a preference here? I'd like to
>> make
>> sure I implement the right option.
>
> I'm afraid I've lost context here. Your suggestion was to use this:
>
>> +(defun read-potential-mouse-event ()
>> + "Read an event that might be a mouse event.
>> +
>> +This function exists for backward compatibility in code packaged
>> +with Emacs. Do not call it directly in your own packages."
>> + (if xterm-mouse-mode
>> + (read-key nil t)
>> + (read-event)))
>
> This uses read-key when xterm-mouse-mode is in use, otherwise uses
> read-event as we did before.
>
> But now the discussion is about read-key only, and also about
> read-key-sequence, which was not on the table at all, AFAIR? There
> seems to be some gap here that I couldn't bridge upon.
The additional thing to keep in mind is that read-key is implemented on
top of read-key-sequence. read-key currently will never return down
mouse events due to them being discarded in the (C function)
read_key_sequence.
I highlighted a way to do this in the original patch in this email
thread. Stefan requested an alternative, which is to extend the
behavior of the dont-downcase-last parameter to read-key-sequence. As
this changes behavior for read-key-sequence, I want to know what is the
right way to make this behavior change.
To simplify things, I think we can only look at #1 and #3, as both
Stefan and I agree #3 is better than #2. The three choices I presented
were:
1. [Stefan's preference] Change the behavior of the dont-downcase-last
parameter to this more extensive meaning. Update global-set-key (the
only other caller who sets dont-downcase-last in Emacs' code) to take
this new behavior into account.
2. Make the dont-downcase-last parameter have the new behavior only if
it is passed some new value (for example: 'all-fallbacks). Leave the
existing behavior for any other value, especially 'nil and 't.
3. [My preference] Like 2, but with a deprecation message on values
other than 'nil, 'all-fallbacks, or 't (or maybe 'downcase-last if we
want full explicitness). This allows maximal ability to define new
behaviors in the future.
> So I'm sorry for slowing you down, but could you explain how the 3
> possibilities you describe are related to the original issue, which
> was that read-event is insufficient to support xterm-mouse-mode in
> those places?
No need to apologize. I realize read_key_sequnce is the *CORE* part of
Emacs' input handling so any change needs to be handled with utmost
care.
-- MJF
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-12-23 17:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-11-16 6:29 Additional cleanup around xterm-mouse Jared Finder via Emacs development discussions.
2020-11-16 17:30 ` Jared Finder via Emacs development discussions.
2020-11-18 17:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-19 8:03 ` Jared Finder via Emacs development discussions.
2020-11-21 9:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-22 23:56 ` Jared Finder via Emacs development discussions.
2020-11-28 16:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-01 7:36 ` Jared Finder via Emacs development discussions.
2020-12-01 15:21 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-01 18:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-02 6:45 ` Jared Finder via Emacs development discussions.
2020-12-02 16:53 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-03 5:46 ` Jared Finder via Emacs development discussions.
2020-12-03 14:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-03 17:31 ` Jared Finder via Emacs development discussions.
2020-12-14 0:54 ` Jared Finder via Emacs development discussions.
2020-12-14 15:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-16 5:30 ` Jared Finder via Emacs development discussions.
2020-12-19 18:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-19 22:50 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-20 7:26 ` Jared Finder via Emacs development discussions.
2020-12-20 14:07 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-20 23:27 ` Jared Finder via Emacs development discussions.
2020-12-23 16:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-23 17:21 ` Jared Finder via Emacs development discussions. [this message]
2020-12-24 18:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-14 0:36 ` Jared Finder via Emacs development discussions.
2020-11-21 17:00 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-21 8:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2020-12-26 23:49 Jared Finder via Emacs development discussions.
2020-12-27 15:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-27 16:30 ` Jared Finder via Emacs development discussions.
2020-12-27 17:10 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-28 0:22 ` Jared Finder via Emacs development discussions.
2021-01-02 8:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-02 22:20 ` Jared Finder via Emacs development discussions.
2021-01-09 12:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-09 23:01 ` Jared Finder via Emacs development discussions.
2021-01-15 11:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-15 8:49 Jared Finder via Emacs development discussions.
2020-11-15 18:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
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