unofficial mirror of emacs-devel@gnu.org 
 help / color / mirror / code / Atom feed
From: Jared Finder via "Emacs development discussions." <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Additional cleanup around xterm-mouse
Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2020 23:36:23 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0ea60a4f2a7fb0698f84ac5957cafef3@finder.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83mtz1moa5.fsf@gnu.org>

On 2020-11-28 8:36 am, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2020 15:56:50 -0800
>> From: Jared Finder <jared@finder.org>
>> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
>> 
>> > So I'm still asking why can't we do something like
>> >
>> >   (if xterm-mouse-mode
>> >       (read-key)
>> >     (read-event))
>> >
>> > in all the affected places that currently call read-event?
>> 
>> This can be done in all places except widget-key-sequence-read-event
>> (see below for an explanation).  Though it feels like a bad solution 
>> as
>> the info pages clearly state right now that if you want to read
>> translated events, you should use read-key, not read-event.  Mouse
>> events always could be translated because of xterm-mouse-mode, so 
>> isn't
>> this just a bug?
> 
> Maybe it is a bug, but somehow we've lived with it for a very long
> time.
> 
> Btw, my main worry is not that we will begin to use translated events
> where we formerly didn't, it's that we will use an input function
> whose code is very different, and thus some aspects of its behavior in
> various situations could very well be subtly different, thus breaking
> some use cases.  Try to compare the two functions and figure out
> whether they behave the same or not, and in what cases.  The code is
> so different that even understanding how they both receive the same
> events is non-trivial.  How does one assess risk from this change in
> cases like this one?

This makes sense to me.  I agree that read-key is likely to currently 
behave different in some situations from read-event.  Are these 
differences bugs that should be fixed or are they now features that can 
not be changed?  I ask because I feel bad about adding yet another 
difference between xterm-mouse and "native" mouse support.

I'm about 33% through analyzing read-key and have already found the 
following differences:

* read-key resets this-command-keys, read-event appends to it.
* read-key does not return switch-frame events as they happen, 
read-event does.

Are these bugs to fix?  If so perhaps an exhaustive analysis with good 
unit test coverage could address the risk here and provide a path to 
removing such a difference in the future.  I agree that in the short 
term, adding (if xterm-mouse-mode (read-key) (read-event)) is the safest 
path.

>> Note that because function keys are also affected, for this function 
>> the
>> check whether to use read-key or read-event would need to be something
>> like:
>> 
>> (if (eq window-system nil) ; This is correct on Linux and macOS, not
>> sure
>>                             ; if accurate for other platforms
>>      (read-key)
>>    (read-event))
> 
> That won't be necessary: in wid-edit.el, just replace read-event with
> read-key, and let's see how much this breaks.

Sounds good. I will modify my patch soon.

   -- MJF



  reply	other threads:[~2020-12-01  7:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-16  6:29 Additional cleanup around xterm-mouse Jared Finder via Emacs development discussions.
2020-11-16 17:30 ` Jared Finder via Emacs development discussions.
2020-11-18 17:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-19  8:03   ` Jared Finder via Emacs development discussions.
2020-11-21  9:31     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-22 23:56       ` Jared Finder via Emacs development discussions.
2020-11-28 16:36         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-01  7:36           ` Jared Finder via Emacs development discussions. [this message]
2020-12-01 15:21             ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-01 18:23             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-02  6:45               ` Jared Finder via Emacs development discussions.
2020-12-02 16:53                 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-03  5:46                   ` Jared Finder via Emacs development discussions.
2020-12-03 14:45                     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-03 17:31                       ` Jared Finder via Emacs development discussions.
2020-12-14  0:54                         ` Jared Finder via Emacs development discussions.
2020-12-14 15:32                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-16  5:30                             ` Jared Finder via Emacs development discussions.
2020-12-19 18:32                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-19 22:50                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-20  7:26                                   ` Jared Finder via Emacs development discussions.
2020-12-20 14:07                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-20 23:27                                       ` Jared Finder via Emacs development discussions.
2020-12-23 16:52                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-23 17:21                                           ` Jared Finder via Emacs development discussions.
2020-12-24 18:43                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-14  0:36               ` Jared Finder via Emacs development discussions.
2020-11-21 17:00     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-21  8:23   ` Eli Zaretskii
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2020-12-26 23:49 Jared Finder via Emacs development discussions.
2020-12-27 15:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-27 16:30   ` Jared Finder via Emacs development discussions.
2020-12-27 17:10     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-28  0:22       ` Jared Finder via Emacs development discussions.
2021-01-02  8:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-02 22:20   ` Jared Finder via Emacs development discussions.
2021-01-09 12:27     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-09 23:01       ` Jared Finder via Emacs development discussions.
2021-01-15 11:54         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-15  8:49 Jared Finder via Emacs development discussions.
2020-11-15 18:11 ` Eli Zaretskii

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

  List information: https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=0ea60a4f2a7fb0698f84ac5957cafef3@finder.org \
    --to=emacs-devel@gnu.org \
    --cc=eliz@gnu.org \
    --cc=jared@finder.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
Code repositories for project(s) associated with this public inbox

	https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git

This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for read-only IMAP folder(s) and NNTP newsgroup(s).