From: Jared Finder via "Emacs development discussions." <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Additional cleanup around xterm-mouse
Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2020 23:36:23 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <0ea60a4f2a7fb0698f84ac5957cafef3@finder.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83mtz1moa5.fsf@gnu.org>
On 2020-11-28 8:36 am, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2020 15:56:50 -0800
>> From: Jared Finder <jared@finder.org>
>> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
>>
>> > So I'm still asking why can't we do something like
>> >
>> > (if xterm-mouse-mode
>> > (read-key)
>> > (read-event))
>> >
>> > in all the affected places that currently call read-event?
>>
>> This can be done in all places except widget-key-sequence-read-event
>> (see below for an explanation). Though it feels like a bad solution
>> as
>> the info pages clearly state right now that if you want to read
>> translated events, you should use read-key, not read-event. Mouse
>> events always could be translated because of xterm-mouse-mode, so
>> isn't
>> this just a bug?
>
> Maybe it is a bug, but somehow we've lived with it for a very long
> time.
>
> Btw, my main worry is not that we will begin to use translated events
> where we formerly didn't, it's that we will use an input function
> whose code is very different, and thus some aspects of its behavior in
> various situations could very well be subtly different, thus breaking
> some use cases. Try to compare the two functions and figure out
> whether they behave the same or not, and in what cases. The code is
> so different that even understanding how they both receive the same
> events is non-trivial. How does one assess risk from this change in
> cases like this one?
This makes sense to me. I agree that read-key is likely to currently
behave different in some situations from read-event. Are these
differences bugs that should be fixed or are they now features that can
not be changed? I ask because I feel bad about adding yet another
difference between xterm-mouse and "native" mouse support.
I'm about 33% through analyzing read-key and have already found the
following differences:
* read-key resets this-command-keys, read-event appends to it.
* read-key does not return switch-frame events as they happen,
read-event does.
Are these bugs to fix? If so perhaps an exhaustive analysis with good
unit test coverage could address the risk here and provide a path to
removing such a difference in the future. I agree that in the short
term, adding (if xterm-mouse-mode (read-key) (read-event)) is the safest
path.
>> Note that because function keys are also affected, for this function
>> the
>> check whether to use read-key or read-event would need to be something
>> like:
>>
>> (if (eq window-system nil) ; This is correct on Linux and macOS, not
>> sure
>> ; if accurate for other platforms
>> (read-key)
>> (read-event))
>
> That won't be necessary: in wid-edit.el, just replace read-event with
> read-key, and let's see how much this breaks.
Sounds good. I will modify my patch soon.
-- MJF
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-12-01 7:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-11-16 6:29 Additional cleanup around xterm-mouse Jared Finder via Emacs development discussions.
2020-11-16 17:30 ` Jared Finder via Emacs development discussions.
2020-11-18 17:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-19 8:03 ` Jared Finder via Emacs development discussions.
2020-11-21 9:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-22 23:56 ` Jared Finder via Emacs development discussions.
2020-11-28 16:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-01 7:36 ` Jared Finder via Emacs development discussions. [this message]
2020-12-01 15:21 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-01 18:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-02 6:45 ` Jared Finder via Emacs development discussions.
2020-12-02 16:53 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-03 5:46 ` Jared Finder via Emacs development discussions.
2020-12-03 14:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-03 17:31 ` Jared Finder via Emacs development discussions.
2020-12-14 0:54 ` Jared Finder via Emacs development discussions.
2020-12-14 15:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-16 5:30 ` Jared Finder via Emacs development discussions.
2020-12-19 18:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-19 22:50 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-20 7:26 ` Jared Finder via Emacs development discussions.
2020-12-20 14:07 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-20 23:27 ` Jared Finder via Emacs development discussions.
2020-12-23 16:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-23 17:21 ` Jared Finder via Emacs development discussions.
2020-12-24 18:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-14 0:36 ` Jared Finder via Emacs development discussions.
2020-11-21 17:00 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-21 8:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2020-12-26 23:49 Jared Finder via Emacs development discussions.
2020-12-27 15:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-27 16:30 ` Jared Finder via Emacs development discussions.
2020-12-27 17:10 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-28 0:22 ` Jared Finder via Emacs development discussions.
2021-01-02 8:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-02 22:20 ` Jared Finder via Emacs development discussions.
2021-01-09 12:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-09 23:01 ` Jared Finder via Emacs development discussions.
2021-01-15 11:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-15 8:49 Jared Finder via Emacs development discussions.
2020-11-15 18:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
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