From: Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>
To: Augusto Stoffel <arstoffel@gmail.com>
Cc: Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net>,
Gregory Heytings <gregory@heytings.org>, Ergus <spacibba@aol.com>,
Manuel Uberti <manuel.uberti@inventati.org>,
emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Simple isearch concerns
Date: Mon, 03 May 2021 01:18:09 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87y2cwhiti.fsf@mail.linkov.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87bl9tmzun.fsf@gmail.com> (Augusto Stoffel's message of "Sun, 02 May 2021 08:09:04 +0200")
> 1. Since you probably want to remove the ugly `with-isearch-suspended'
> eventually, the local mode will not only be on by default, it will be
> the only alternative. Should then `isearch-buffer-local' be
> double-dashed, so it too can be removed?
It could be removed in later releases, indeed. But OTOH, until
it's removed, naming a user option with double-dashes is not allowed.
> 2. In edit mode, when I delete a character, the search doesn't backtrack
> to the barrier. It's the same undesirable behavior described in
> https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=46469. In isearch-mb,
> the post-command-hook contains
>
> (goto-char isearch-barrier)
> (setq isearch-adjusted t isearch-success t)
>
> for to fix that.
Thanks, this should be added to the patch.
> 3. The after change hook should call `isearch-update' instead of
> `isearch-search-and-update' after `previous-history-element' and few
> other commands. In isearch-mb I use a symbol property to keep track
> of this.
Thanks, it seems many solutions could be taken from isearch-mb to isearch.el.
> 4. Every time one types a character in the minibuffer, there is a
> visible flicker in the cursor. In isearch-mb I've let-bound
> `inhibit-redisplay' to t in a couple of places and it solved this
> problem. I wonder if there's a better solution.
Maybe a flicker is caused by isearch-message?
> 5. The command `isearch-forward-exit-minibuffer' should eventually be
> removed, and instead `isearch-repeat-forward' should work in both
> cases (this will probably be implemented with the help of a new
> macro). The reason for this is that there is at least a dozen other
> Isearch commands that make sense in the minibuffer map as well
> (toggling modes, quitting and entering query-replace, and so on), and
> it would be annoying to write a minibuffer variant for each of them.
This is the part where I don't yet have an idea how to handle
all isearch commands from the minibuffer without using a macro
to implement their duplicates to be callable from the minibuffer.
> 6. Why is there the option to specify an `isearch-new-message' in
> `with-isearch-suspended'? I've never seen any valid value other than
> `(mapconcat 'isearch-text-char-description isearch-string "")', which,
> by the way, repeats at several places in isearch.el
This is just to handle existing uses of with-isearch-suspended that
currently set isearch-new-message, i.e. this could be changed later.
>> And here is a patch for updating the search from the minibuffer. This allows
>> to implement https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2020-01/msg00447.html
>> to control the search from the minibuffer. But I'm not sure if the same option
>> isearch-buffer-local should enable this mode:
>
> I still don't understand why Isearch has to be so stringent about
> backward compatibility of key sequences. But I don't care about the
> edit mode per se. I only care about an alternative mode where `C-s'
> immediately goes to the minibuffer, and exiting the minibuffer ends the
> search.
In such a new mode isearch-edit-string could be called at the end of
isearch-mode.
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2021-04-03 0:15 ` Simple isearch concerns Ergus
2021-04-03 5:56 ` Thierry Volpiatto
2021-04-03 6:33 ` Manuel Uberti
2021-04-03 10:37 ` Daniel Martín
2021-04-06 7:12 ` Zhiwei Chen
2021-04-06 13:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-04-06 13:18 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-06 14:17 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-06 18:56 ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-06 20:10 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-07 10:22 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-07 16:24 ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-07 17:03 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-08 19:08 ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-09 6:42 ` Zhiwei Chen
2021-04-21 17:51 ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-25 8:16 ` Zhiwei Chen
2021-04-03 11:28 ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-04-03 12:26 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-03 16:37 ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-04-03 17:31 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-03 18:36 ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-04-03 19:36 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-04-05 2:18 ` Ergus
2021-04-05 8:39 ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-03 17:45 ` Ergus
2021-04-22 7:15 ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-04-22 22:24 ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-25 7:15 ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-04-25 17:24 ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-25 18:41 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-04-26 5:39 ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-04-27 17:41 ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-29 16:29 ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-29 17:50 ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-04-29 23:00 ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-30 7:07 ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-04-30 16:41 ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-02 6:09 ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-05-02 22:18 ` Juri Linkov [this message]
2021-05-03 5:30 ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-05-03 16:51 ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-05 20:52 ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-07 17:14 ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-08 10:17 ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-05-09 19:12 ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-09 19:53 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-05-10 21:11 ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-10 23:06 ` Drew Adams
2021-05-11 18:32 ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-11 20:01 ` Drew Adams
2021-05-11 6:20 ` Yuri Khan
2021-05-11 9:01 ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-05-11 18:37 ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-11 20:56 ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-03 12:29 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-03 13:02 ` Daniel Martín
2021-04-03 13:25 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-03 17:25 ` Ergus
2021-04-03 10:28 ` Daniel Martín
2021-04-04 22:48 ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-04 23:27 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-04-05 1:41 ` Ergus
2021-04-05 2:22 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-04-05 8:34 ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-05 14:58 ` Drew Adams
2021-04-05 2:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-04-05 8:30 ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-05 9:52 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2021-04-05 15:08 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-04-05 2:08 ` Ergus
2021-04-05 20:37 ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-05 21:18 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-04-05 21:35 ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-05 22:37 ` Ergus
2021-04-06 19:11 ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-06 19:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-04-06 20:10 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-07 16:30 ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-07 17:14 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-07 20:12 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-05 23:06 ` Drew Adams
2021-04-05 22:16 ` Ergus
2021-04-06 19:17 ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-06 0:30 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-06 0:44 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-06 18:53 ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-06 20:10 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-07 16:36 ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-07 17:21 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-07 20:12 ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-07 21:09 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-08 8:08 ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-08 8:48 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-08 19:12 ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-08 19:27 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-08 20:05 ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-08 20:10 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-08 22:40 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-09 6:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-04-09 7:20 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-09 8:37 ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-09 10:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-04-09 16:49 ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-09 10:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-04-09 11:27 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-09 12:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-04-09 6:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-04-09 8:39 ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-09 10:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-04-09 11:48 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-09 12:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-04-09 13:26 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-09 13:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-04-09 14:36 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-09 14:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-04-09 15:25 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-09 19:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-04-09 19:04 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-04-09 23:18 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-10 7:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-04-10 10:36 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-10 10:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-04-10 10:57 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-10 11:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-04-10 19:02 ` Now branch isearch-vertical Ergus
2021-04-10 20:00 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-10 22:12 ` Simple isearch concerns Juri Linkov
2021-04-10 23:55 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-11 7:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-04-11 8:49 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-11 10:16 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-11 22:09 ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-11 22:17 ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-11 23:06 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-11 22:05 ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-08 3:32 ` Ergus
2022-03-03 16:36 ` Augusto Stoffel
2022-03-03 17:50 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-03-03 18:39 ` Augusto Stoffel
2022-03-03 18:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-04-07 16:41 ` Howard Melman
2021-04-06 2:21 ` Ergus
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