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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: "Basil L. Contovounesios" <contovob@tcd.ie>,
	Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: Ergus <spacibba@aol.com>,
	"emacs-devel@gnu.org" <emacs-devel@gnu.org>,
	Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>
Subject: RE: [External] : Re: Simple isearch concerns
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2021 15:08:09 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <SA2PR10MB44742331EBD8A840AE1C0245F3779@SA2PR10MB4474.namprd10.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87k0ph5a8s.fsf@tcd.ie>

> >> Swiper provides this option and after trying it I found it very
> >> useful and some other users seems they do too.
> >
> > I strongly suspect that swiper does not provide *exactly* that option.
> > E.g. does Swiper's option also cause C-r foo RET to place point at the
> > *end* of "foo" rather than its beginning?
> 
> Just for completeness:
> 
> The original swiper and swiper-backward commands either always leave
> point at the end of the match (by default), or always at the start
> (after customising swiper-goto-start-of-match), regardless of direction.
> 
> Later came swiper-isearch and swiper-isearch-backward, for handling
> multiple matches per line.  AFAICT the former always leaves point at the
> end, and the latter always at the start.
> 
> AFAIK neither of these interfaces was originally designed with a way of
> customising where to leave point in mind; it was an afterthought, and
> naturally there are open bug reports about their behaviour.

FWIW, with isearch+.el forward and backward search
mirror each other in this regard.  Point isn't moved,
and the search hit is selected as the active region.

So point remains in "front" of mark in the direction
of search (which is helpful for repeated search, for
example).

The main use case is wanting to act on the search hit,
not just to move to its other end.  Having mark at the
other end gives you easy access to it, as a freebie.

And yes, I think that if someone really wants to just
move point to the other end of the hit then `C-r RET'
is just fine for that.

I definitely wouldn't advise wasting a key binding
such as `C-RET' on that.  But that's just me, becoming
a bindings conservationist in my old age.



  reply	other threads:[~2021-04-05 15:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 143+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20210403001539.x4rb55dvh46rmhb3.ref@Ergus>
2021-04-03  0:15 ` Simple isearch concerns Ergus
2021-04-03  5:56   ` Thierry Volpiatto
2021-04-03  6:33   ` Manuel Uberti
2021-04-03 10:37     ` Daniel Martín
2021-04-06  7:12       ` Zhiwei Chen
2021-04-06 13:04         ` Stefan Monnier
2021-04-06 13:18           ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-06 14:17             ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-06 18:56               ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-06 20:10                 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-07 10:22                   ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-07 16:24                     ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-07 17:03                       ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-08 19:08                         ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-09  6:42                           ` Zhiwei Chen
2021-04-21 17:51         ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-25  8:16           ` Zhiwei Chen
2021-04-03 11:28     ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-04-03 12:26       ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-03 16:37         ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-04-03 17:31           ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-03 18:36             ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-04-03 19:36               ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-04-05  2:18                 ` Ergus
2021-04-05  8:39                   ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-03 17:45           ` Ergus
2021-04-22  7:15             ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-04-22 22:24               ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-25  7:15                 ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-04-25 17:24                   ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-25 18:41                     ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-04-26  5:39                     ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-04-27 17:41                       ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-29 16:29                         ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-29 17:50                           ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-04-29 23:00                             ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-30  7:07                               ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-04-30 16:41                                 ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-02  6:09                                   ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-05-02 22:18                                     ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-03  5:30                                       ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-05-03 16:51                                         ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-05 20:52                                           ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-07 17:14                                             ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-08 10:17                                               ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-05-09 19:12                                                 ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-09 19:53                                                   ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-05-10 21:11                                                     ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-10 23:06                                                       ` Drew Adams
2021-05-11 18:32                                                         ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-11 20:01                                                           ` Drew Adams
2021-05-11  6:20                                                       ` Yuri Khan
2021-05-11  9:01                                                         ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-05-11 18:37                                                         ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-11 20:56                                           ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-03 12:29       ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-03 13:02         ` Daniel Martín
2021-04-03 13:25           ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-03 17:25         ` Ergus
2021-04-03 10:28   ` Daniel Martín
2021-04-04 22:48   ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-04 23:27     ` Stefan Monnier
2021-04-05  1:41       ` Ergus
2021-04-05  2:22         ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-04-05  8:34           ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-05 14:58             ` Drew Adams
2021-04-05  2:38         ` Stefan Monnier
2021-04-05  8:30           ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-05  9:52           ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2021-04-05 15:08             ` Drew Adams [this message]
2021-04-05  2:08     ` Ergus
2021-04-05 20:37   ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-05 21:18     ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-04-05 21:35       ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-05 22:37         ` Ergus
2021-04-06 19:11           ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-06 19:30             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-04-06 20:10               ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-07 16:30                 ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-07 17:14                   ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-07 20:12             ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-05 23:06         ` Drew Adams
2021-04-05 22:16     ` Ergus
2021-04-06 19:17       ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-06  0:30     ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-06  0:44       ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-06 18:53         ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-06 20:10           ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-07 16:36             ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-07 17:21               ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-07 20:12                 ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-07 21:09                   ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-08  8:08                     ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-08  8:48                       ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-08 19:12                         ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-08 19:27                           ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-08 20:05                             ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-08 20:10                               ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-08 22:40                               ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-09  6:22                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-04-09  7:20                                   ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-09  8:37                                     ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-09 10:50                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-04-09 16:49                                         ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-09 10:46                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-04-09 11:27                                       ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-09 12:45                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-04-09  6:05                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-04-09  8:39                                 ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-09 10:51                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-04-09 11:48                                     ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-09 12:48                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-04-09 13:26                                         ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-09 13:49                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-04-09 14:36                                             ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-09 14:56                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-04-09 15:25                                                 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-09 19:01                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-04-09 19:04                                                     ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-04-09 23:18                                                     ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-10  7:17                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-04-10 10:36                                                         ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-10 10:46                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-04-10 10:57                                                             ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-10 11:13                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-04-10 19:02                                                               ` Now branch isearch-vertical Ergus
2021-04-10 20:00                                                                 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-10 22:12                                                               ` Simple isearch concerns Juri Linkov
2021-04-10 23:55                                                                 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-11  7:07                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-04-11  8:49                                                                   ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-11 10:16                                                                     ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-11 22:09                                                                       ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-11 22:17                                                                       ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-11 23:06                                                                         ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-11 22:05                                                                   ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-08  3:32                   ` Ergus
2022-03-03 16:36                   ` Augusto Stoffel
2022-03-03 17:50                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-03-03 18:39                       ` Augusto Stoffel
2022-03-03 18:46                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-04-07 16:41             ` Howard Melman
2021-04-06  2:21       ` Ergus

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