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From: Gregory Heytings <gregory@heytings.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: spacibba@aol.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, juri@linkov.net
Subject: Re: Simple isearch concerns
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2021 15:25:08 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <940751cee5acf0f913df@heytings.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83r1jj7bhg.fsf@gnu.org>


>
> After the first "M-s M->", why do you keep pressing "M-x M->"? why not 
> C-s?
>

Why would it not be possible to jump to the last occurrence in the buffer 
when searching forward?

>> How on earth could such a behavior be considered a feature?
>
> That's not the scenario I had in mind.
>
> But if you want the above to be useful, why not ask whoever implemented 
> that the question about the rationale?  And since when are we fixing a 
> buggy behavior by modifying it in weird unexpected ways?
>

I don't understand your questions.  This is not the behavior of 
isearch-{beginning,end}-of-buffer, this would be the behavior if the 
search direction did not change.  The actual behavior is what one would 
expect, M-s M-< and M-s M-> have the exact same effect after C-s and C-r, 
with point after the occurrence and before the last occurrence 
respectively.

Do I understand correctly that what you would have wanted is the 
following:

1. M-s M-< after C-s: point after the first occurrence (search direction forward)
2. M-s M-> after C-s: point after the last occurrence (search direction forward)
3. M-s M-< after C-r: point before the first occurrence (search direction backward)
4. M-s M-> after C-r: point before the last occurrence (search direction backward)

What we have now is 1 and 4, but not 2 and 3, what we have instead is:

2. M-s M-> after C-s: point before the last occurrence (search direction backward)
3. M-s M-< after C-r: point after the first occurrence (search direction backward)

Is this subtle nuance really important?  Isn't the most likely search 
direction one would want to use at BOB forward, and at EOB backward?  The 
other options are at BOB backward and at EOB forward, but this means 
wrapping, that is, doing what one could have done immediately with 1 and 4 
above...



  reply	other threads:[~2021-04-09 15:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 143+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20210403001539.x4rb55dvh46rmhb3.ref@Ergus>
2021-04-03  0:15 ` Simple isearch concerns Ergus
2021-04-03  5:56   ` Thierry Volpiatto
2021-04-03  6:33   ` Manuel Uberti
2021-04-03 10:37     ` Daniel Martín
2021-04-06  7:12       ` Zhiwei Chen
2021-04-06 13:04         ` Stefan Monnier
2021-04-06 13:18           ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-06 14:17             ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-06 18:56               ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-06 20:10                 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-07 10:22                   ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-07 16:24                     ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-07 17:03                       ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-08 19:08                         ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-09  6:42                           ` Zhiwei Chen
2021-04-21 17:51         ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-25  8:16           ` Zhiwei Chen
2021-04-03 11:28     ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-04-03 12:26       ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-03 16:37         ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-04-03 17:31           ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-03 18:36             ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-04-03 19:36               ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-04-05  2:18                 ` Ergus
2021-04-05  8:39                   ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-03 17:45           ` Ergus
2021-04-22  7:15             ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-04-22 22:24               ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-25  7:15                 ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-04-25 17:24                   ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-25 18:41                     ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-04-26  5:39                     ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-04-27 17:41                       ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-29 16:29                         ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-29 17:50                           ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-04-29 23:00                             ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-30  7:07                               ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-04-30 16:41                                 ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-02  6:09                                   ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-05-02 22:18                                     ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-03  5:30                                       ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-05-03 16:51                                         ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-05 20:52                                           ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-07 17:14                                             ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-08 10:17                                               ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-05-09 19:12                                                 ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-09 19:53                                                   ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-05-10 21:11                                                     ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-10 23:06                                                       ` Drew Adams
2021-05-11 18:32                                                         ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-11 20:01                                                           ` Drew Adams
2021-05-11  6:20                                                       ` Yuri Khan
2021-05-11  9:01                                                         ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-05-11 18:37                                                         ` Juri Linkov
2021-05-11 20:56                                           ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-03 12:29       ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-03 13:02         ` Daniel Martín
2021-04-03 13:25           ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-03 17:25         ` Ergus
2021-04-03 10:28   ` Daniel Martín
2021-04-04 22:48   ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-04 23:27     ` Stefan Monnier
2021-04-05  1:41       ` Ergus
2021-04-05  2:22         ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-04-05  8:34           ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-05 14:58             ` Drew Adams
2021-04-05  2:38         ` Stefan Monnier
2021-04-05  8:30           ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-05  9:52           ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2021-04-05 15:08             ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-04-05  2:08     ` Ergus
2021-04-05 20:37   ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-05 21:18     ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-04-05 21:35       ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-05 22:37         ` Ergus
2021-04-06 19:11           ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-06 19:30             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-04-06 20:10               ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-07 16:30                 ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-07 17:14                   ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-07 20:12             ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-05 23:06         ` Drew Adams
2021-04-05 22:16     ` Ergus
2021-04-06 19:17       ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-06  0:30     ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-06  0:44       ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-06 18:53         ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-06 20:10           ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-07 16:36             ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-07 17:21               ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-07 20:12                 ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-07 21:09                   ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-08  8:08                     ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-08  8:48                       ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-08 19:12                         ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-08 19:27                           ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-08 20:05                             ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-08 20:10                               ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-08 22:40                               ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-09  6:22                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-04-09  7:20                                   ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-09  8:37                                     ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-09 10:50                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-04-09 16:49                                         ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-09 10:46                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-04-09 11:27                                       ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-09 12:45                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-04-09  6:05                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-04-09  8:39                                 ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-09 10:51                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-04-09 11:48                                     ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-09 12:48                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-04-09 13:26                                         ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-09 13:49                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-04-09 14:36                                             ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-09 14:56                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-04-09 15:25                                                 ` Gregory Heytings [this message]
2021-04-09 19:01                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-04-09 19:04                                                     ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-04-09 23:18                                                     ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-10  7:17                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-04-10 10:36                                                         ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-10 10:46                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-04-10 10:57                                                             ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-10 11:13                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-04-10 19:02                                                               ` Now branch isearch-vertical Ergus
2021-04-10 20:00                                                                 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-10 22:12                                                               ` Simple isearch concerns Juri Linkov
2021-04-10 23:55                                                                 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-11  7:07                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-04-11  8:49                                                                   ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-11 10:16                                                                     ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-11 22:09                                                                       ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-11 22:17                                                                       ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-11 23:06                                                                         ` Gregory Heytings
2021-04-11 22:05                                                                   ` Juri Linkov
2021-04-08  3:32                   ` Ergus
2022-03-03 16:36                   ` Augusto Stoffel
2022-03-03 17:50                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-03-03 18:39                       ` Augusto Stoffel
2022-03-03 18:46                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-04-07 16:41             ` Howard Melman
2021-04-06  2:21       ` Ergus

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