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From: David Engster <deng@randomsample.de>
To: "Eric M. Ludlam" <eric@siege-engine.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: A unified project root interface
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 19:03:45 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87vc8vyy66.fsf@engster.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <513FBA1C.5040100@siege-engine.com> (Eric M. Ludlam's message of "Tue, 12 Mar 2013 19:28:28 -0400")

Eric M. Ludlam writes:
> On 03/11/2013 02:57 PM, Lluís wrote:
>> CEDET provides this in two ways (as part of the EDE subsystem):
>>
>> * If a Project.ede file exists, that's the root (similar to .dir-locals.el in
>>    this context)
>>
>> * If signs of a "project-like" structure exist (e.g., (auto)makefiles, scons,
>>    java, etc), uses system-specific knowledge to automatically
>> detect the project
>>    root.
>> I'm commenting this because, first, managing projects is the purpose of EDE
>> (although it tries to do more than just identifying their root) and it's
>> integrated in Emacs; and second, because the auto-detection could help in making
>> the process simpler and, in the best case, auto-magical.
>
> I, of course, agree with Lluis.  EDE is already setup to automatically
> find projects as was requested.  Adding new projects through the
> generic' system is a pretty simple prospect.

Yes, but we cannot envision all the kinds of projects people would want
and create those for them beforehand. And defining own projects with
ede-generic is simple, but not simple enough for end users. Let's take
the example for defining those simple projects in project-roots.el,
given by Sudish Joseph in this thread:

	("Perl Project"
         :root-contains-files ("t" "lib")
         :on-hit (lambda (p) (message (car p))))

You can create a project like this with ede-generic, but then you have
to write a little defclass inheriting from ede-generic, call
ede-generic-new-autoloader, and to actually *do* something when the
project is loaded you have to define methods like
`ede-generic-setup-configuration'. This is just too much boilerplate for
such a simple thing like the above. Also, even most Emacs developers are
not familiar with the CLOS-like syntax that's needed to define those
things.

There's no doubt that EDE can do all what's needed, but is has to be
wrapped in something that's easier to use, at least for simple stuff
like what project-roots.el does.

-David



  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-03-13 18:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-03-09 16:44 A unified project root interface Jorgen Schaefer
2013-03-09 17:12 ` Fabian Ezequiel Gallina
2013-03-10  5:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-03-10 10:06   ` Jorgen Schaefer
2013-03-11 18:57   ` Lluís
2013-03-12 23:28     ` Eric M. Ludlam
2013-03-12 23:42       ` Jorgen Schaefer
2013-03-13  2:02         ` Eric M. Ludlam
2013-03-13 18:03       ` David Engster [this message]
2013-03-13 19:11         ` Sudish Joseph
2013-03-16  0:47         ` Eric M. Ludlam
2013-03-16 14:18           ` David Engster
2013-03-16 15:02             ` Jorgen Schaefer
2013-03-16 22:27               ` Phil Hagelberg
2013-03-16 22:59               ` David Engster
2013-03-16 23:16                 ` Jorgen Schaefer
2013-03-17 17:40                   ` David Engster
2013-03-17 18:18                     ` Jorgen Schaefer
2013-03-18 22:50                       ` David Engster
2013-03-19  1:57                         ` John Yates
2013-03-19  7:18                           ` David Engster
2013-03-19 12:23                             ` Eric M. Ludlam
2013-03-19 13:06                             ` Stefan Monnier
2013-03-19 19:09                               ` David Engster
2013-03-20  3:21                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-03-20  4:48                                   ` Leo Liu
2013-03-20  7:04                                     ` joakim
2013-03-20  7:05                                     ` David Engster
2013-03-20  7:13                                   ` David Engster
2013-03-20 12:57                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2013-03-20 16:14                                       ` Davis Herring
2013-03-20 17:41                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2013-03-20 17:48                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2013-03-20 18:20                                         ` Bruce Korb
2013-03-20 22:14                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2013-03-20 16:34                                       ` David Engster
2013-03-20 17:47                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2013-03-21  0:55                                           ` Eric M. Ludlam
2013-03-21  3:27                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2013-03-21  4:07                                               ` Eric M. Ludlam
2013-03-21 14:33                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-03-22  2:12                                                 ` Eric M. Ludlam
2013-03-23 11:04                                                   ` EIEIO split (was: A unified project root interface) David Engster
2013-03-21 16:32                                             ` A unified project root interface David Engster
2013-03-22  0:47                                               ` Eric M. Ludlam
2013-03-22 20:30                                                 ` David Engster
2013-03-23 17:10                                                   ` Eric M. Ludlam
2013-03-23 17:26                                                     ` Jorgen Schaefer
2013-03-23 18:02                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-03-23 20:51                                                         ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-03-24  4:25                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-03-24 10:13                                                             ` Jorgen Schaefer
2013-04-06 13:25                                                               ` Jorgen Schaefer
2013-04-06 17:13                                                                 ` Eric M. Ludlam
2013-04-08 19:03                                                                   ` David Engster
2013-12-31 20:12                                                               ` Daniel Colascione
2013-03-20 17:49                                         ` Jorgen Schaefer
2013-03-19  7:33                         ` Jorgen Schaefer
2013-03-17  8:08                 ` joakim
2013-03-12 15:34   ` Sudish Joseph
2013-03-12 16:51     ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-03-12 18:23   ` Ted Zlatanov

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