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From: David Engster <deng@randomsample.de>
To: "Eric M. Ludlam" <eric@siege-engine.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: A unified project root interface
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2013 15:18:50 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87sj3vv35h.fsf@engster.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5143C11D.8070705@siege-engine.com> (Eric M. Ludlam's message of "Fri, 15 Mar 2013 20:47:25 -0400")

Eric M. Ludlam writes:
> On 03/13/2013 02:03 PM, David Engster wrote:
>> There's no doubt that EDE can do all what's needed, but is has to be
>> wrapped in something that's easier to use, at least for simple stuff
>> like what project-roots.el does.
>
> Ok, I can buy that.  EDE was never simple.  I just know that if an
> "official" project mechanism is built, I'll have some work to do. ;)

I think we don't need another project mechanism in Emacs. EDE and
dir-locals should be enough. What we have to do however is to develop at
least one very basic project type in EDE which can be used similar to
project-root.el. I think what Sudish Joseph explained in this thread is
pretty typical:

- Recognizing projects based on some files or directories which are in
  the current directory or further up the tree.

- The ability to ask Emacs of what project the current buffer is part
  of.

- Automatic setting of variables based on the current project.

The user should be able to configure this in a variable, similar to how
project-root.el does it. For example:

("Perl Project"
   :root-contains ("t" "lib")
   :on-load 'some-function 
   :variable-settings '((tab-width . 4)
                        (fill-column . 79)))

This is easy to implement with EDE. I can work on this, but I'd like to
finish my five other things which are 90% finished first...

> Also be aware that I ran into a lot of performance issues I had to
> work through with EDE project detection.  Once other code starts
> asking where it is in a project, it's amazing how often that stuff
> gets called.  A project cache is a super handy thing, and was one of
> the key performance improvements I made back when i was trying to
> speed up smart completion.

Yes, I know. This is why I think EDE should be the framework on which
those things are built.

-David



  reply	other threads:[~2013-03-16 14:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-03-09 16:44 A unified project root interface Jorgen Schaefer
2013-03-09 17:12 ` Fabian Ezequiel Gallina
2013-03-10  5:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-03-10 10:06   ` Jorgen Schaefer
2013-03-11 18:57   ` Lluís
2013-03-12 23:28     ` Eric M. Ludlam
2013-03-12 23:42       ` Jorgen Schaefer
2013-03-13  2:02         ` Eric M. Ludlam
2013-03-13 18:03       ` David Engster
2013-03-13 19:11         ` Sudish Joseph
2013-03-16  0:47         ` Eric M. Ludlam
2013-03-16 14:18           ` David Engster [this message]
2013-03-16 15:02             ` Jorgen Schaefer
2013-03-16 22:27               ` Phil Hagelberg
2013-03-16 22:59               ` David Engster
2013-03-16 23:16                 ` Jorgen Schaefer
2013-03-17 17:40                   ` David Engster
2013-03-17 18:18                     ` Jorgen Schaefer
2013-03-18 22:50                       ` David Engster
2013-03-19  1:57                         ` John Yates
2013-03-19  7:18                           ` David Engster
2013-03-19 12:23                             ` Eric M. Ludlam
2013-03-19 13:06                             ` Stefan Monnier
2013-03-19 19:09                               ` David Engster
2013-03-20  3:21                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-03-20  4:48                                   ` Leo Liu
2013-03-20  7:04                                     ` joakim
2013-03-20  7:05                                     ` David Engster
2013-03-20  7:13                                   ` David Engster
2013-03-20 12:57                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2013-03-20 16:14                                       ` Davis Herring
2013-03-20 17:41                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2013-03-20 17:48                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2013-03-20 18:20                                         ` Bruce Korb
2013-03-20 22:14                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2013-03-20 16:34                                       ` David Engster
2013-03-20 17:47                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2013-03-21  0:55                                           ` Eric M. Ludlam
2013-03-21  3:27                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2013-03-21  4:07                                               ` Eric M. Ludlam
2013-03-21 14:33                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-03-22  2:12                                                 ` Eric M. Ludlam
2013-03-23 11:04                                                   ` EIEIO split (was: A unified project root interface) David Engster
2013-03-21 16:32                                             ` A unified project root interface David Engster
2013-03-22  0:47                                               ` Eric M. Ludlam
2013-03-22 20:30                                                 ` David Engster
2013-03-23 17:10                                                   ` Eric M. Ludlam
2013-03-23 17:26                                                     ` Jorgen Schaefer
2013-03-23 18:02                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-03-23 20:51                                                         ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-03-24  4:25                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-03-24 10:13                                                             ` Jorgen Schaefer
2013-04-06 13:25                                                               ` Jorgen Schaefer
2013-04-06 17:13                                                                 ` Eric M. Ludlam
2013-04-08 19:03                                                                   ` David Engster
2013-12-31 20:12                                                               ` Daniel Colascione
2013-03-20 17:49                                         ` Jorgen Schaefer
2013-03-19  7:33                         ` Jorgen Schaefer
2013-03-17  8:08                 ` joakim
2013-03-12 15:34   ` Sudish Joseph
2013-03-12 16:51     ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-03-12 18:23   ` Ted Zlatanov

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