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From: "Basil L. Contovounesios" <contovob@tcd.ie>
To: Christopher Miles <numbchild@gmail.com>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>,
	Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se>, Leo Liu <sdl.web@gmail.com>,
	"emacs-devel@gnu.org" <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Lift {global,local}-key-binding to Lisp
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2021 16:10:59 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87lfcrzgq4.fsf@tcd.ie> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <VI1PR1001MB1070C6A9D41E778347C9A040A3A50@VI1PR1001MB1070.EURPRD10.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM> (Christopher Miles's message of "Sun, 17 Jan 2021 14:33:05 +0000")

Christopher Miles <numbchild@gmail.com> writes:

> Leo Liu <sdl.web@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> On 2021-01-15 14:09 +0200, Dmitry Gutov wrote:
>>> Consider that, when a piece of code is implemented in Lisp, it's
>>> easier for us "mere mortals" to find it, read, understand and debug
>>> it. Even more so when it comes to people outside of emacs-devel.
>>
>> Eli is not against more elisp. In fact he encourages it.
>>
>> His principle is for C code that has been there for decades and is _not_
>> broken let us be cautious and make a clear case before moving it to
>> elisp.
>>
>> There could only be good things following this principle.
>
> If don't move this, then there is same reason to don't more others. Then don't
> change any C code which existed for a long time. So the result is don't touch
> any C code.... A reason like existing for decade time is not a reasonable
> argument. Should talking technically.
>
> An old house existing for decades, should not update it.... because it exists
> decades. We should talk about why update it. And Dmitry Gutov and Stefa gives
> clear reason. But you didn't give technical reason. So I think it's not really
> arguing correctly. Really should stop this.

You seem to have misunderstood - the argument isn't to never touch old C
code; it's to not touch it for superficial changes alone, for some
definition of superficial.  Updating old code for necessary reasons is
always welcome.

-- 
Basil



      parent reply	other threads:[~2021-01-17 16:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-13 19:26 Lift {global,local}-key-binding to Lisp Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-14 19:24 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-01-14 20:10   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-14 20:24     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-15  1:58     ` Leo Liu
2021-01-15  4:16     ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-01-15  7:42       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-21 16:03     ` Stefan Kangas
2021-01-21 16:59       ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-01-21 17:50         ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-21 18:16           ` Drew Adams
2021-01-21 18:58             ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-21 19:59       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-14 21:03   ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-01-15  7:45     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-15 12:09 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-15 12:18   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-15 13:24     ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-15 13:45       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-15 18:09         ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-01-17 14:27           ` Christopher Miles
2021-01-15 18:03       ` Drew Adams
2021-01-16  0:51   ` Leo Liu
2021-01-17 14:33     ` Christopher Miles
2021-01-17 15:08       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-18  3:29         ` Christopher Miles
2021-01-18 16:43           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-17 16:10       ` Basil L. Contovounesios [this message]

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