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From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
Cc: rms@gnu.org, Lute.Kamstra.lists@xs4all.nl, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Removing unloaded functions from auto-mode-alist.
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 22:25:50 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <85y8bd9ovl.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwv4qe1rzhm.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Wed, 20 Apr 2005 16:11:33 -0400")

Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:

>> I explained already why nothing else makes sense.  AUCTeX makes
>> extensive use of mode cookies in local variables, and those are only
>> obeyed in the lowercase version.  The choice of AUCTeX vs tex-mode is
>> a user preference and should not be embedded into files.
>
> I of course understand why it would override them, but not why it
> would set major-mode to `latex-mode' rather than to `LaTeX-mode'.
>
> In my opinion, LaTeX-mode is the AUCTeX major mode, while latex-mode
> can be either, depending on the user's preference.

You are confusing the value of the major-mode variable with the
invocation.  The invocation "LaTeX-mode" installs latex-mode with
AUCTeX keybindings, syntax tables, mode hooks and variables.

>> I am still thinking about whether to keep the current scheme which
>> has tex-mode as the main function and TeX-mode as an alias into it,
>> or switch that around.
>
> I'll very much vote in favor of switching it around.

Noted in case that my indecision is not resolved by other
considerations.

>> The problem with a switch is that "autoload" will not replace
>> aliases, and so I can't replace the Emacs default scheme by just
>> specifying new autoloads.
>
> Indeed, as shown in my sample auctex-override.el you just have to
> explicitly fmakunbound them before setting up the autoload.  No
> biggie, tho.

Except that it makes it harder to have unload-feature restore the
state previous to the loading.

In short, it seems to complicate achieving a clean switch between
tex-mode.el and AUCTeX, but it seems like a somewhat more natural
starting positiong when one indeed wants to employ both modes in a
single session.

-- 
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum

  reply	other threads:[~2005-04-20 20:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-04-19 15:23 Removing unloaded functions from auto-mode-alist Lute Kamstra
2005-04-19 16:25 ` David Kastrup
2005-04-19 17:44   ` Stefan Monnier
2005-04-19 21:28     ` David Kastrup
2005-04-19 21:58       ` Stefan Monnier
2005-04-19 22:33         ` David Kastrup
2005-04-20 18:52           ` Stefan Monnier
2005-04-24 20:24             ` Lute Kamstra
2005-04-24 20:50               ` David Kastrup
2005-04-24 21:51                 ` Lute Kamstra
2005-04-24 22:00                   ` David Kastrup
2005-04-24 23:37                     ` Lute Kamstra
2005-04-25  0:07                       ` David Kastrup
2005-04-26 10:04                       ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-20 19:22           ` Lute Kamstra
2005-04-19 23:01         ` Stefan Monnier
2005-04-19 23:14         ` Lute Kamstra
2005-04-19 23:24           ` David Kastrup
2005-04-20 18:41             ` Stefan Monnier
2005-04-20 19:00               ` David Kastrup
2005-04-20 19:18                 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-04-20 19:50                   ` David Kastrup
2005-04-20 19:29               ` Lute Kamstra
2005-04-20 14:57           ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-20 15:59             ` Lute Kamstra
2005-04-21 15:30               ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-21 16:35                 ` Lute Kamstra
2005-04-22 20:51                   ` David Kastrup
2005-04-23 21:00                     ` Lute Kamstra
2005-04-23 22:10                       ` David Kastrup
2005-04-24 20:21                         ` Lute Kamstra
2005-04-24 20:32                           ` David Kastrup
2005-04-24 20:52                             ` Lute Kamstra
2005-04-25 16:05                             ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-23 22:24                     ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-20 14:57         ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-20 15:02           ` Stefan Monnier
2005-04-20 15:57             ` David Kastrup
2005-04-20 18:37               ` Stefan Monnier
2005-04-20 19:19                 ` David Kastrup
2005-04-20 20:11                   ` Stefan Monnier
2005-04-20 20:25                     ` David Kastrup [this message]
2005-04-20 20:57                       ` Stefan Monnier
2005-04-20 21:33                         ` David Kastrup
2005-04-20 16:25             ` Andreas Schwab
2005-04-20 16:57               ` David Kastrup
2005-04-20 22:47                 ` Andreas Schwab
2005-04-20 22:58                   ` David Kastrup
2005-04-21  9:56                     ` Andreas Schwab
2005-04-21 10:12                       ` David Kastrup
2005-04-21 11:50                         ` Andreas Schwab
2005-04-21 19:56                         ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-21 20:13                           ` David Kastrup
2005-04-23 16:15                             ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-23 16:23                               ` David Kastrup
2005-04-23 16:15                           ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-21 11:41                       ` Johan Vromans
2005-04-20 15:43           ` David Kastrup
2005-04-21 15:30             ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-21 17:46               ` David Kastrup
2005-04-23 16:15                 ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-19 22:00       ` Lute Kamstra
2005-04-19 23:22       ` Andreas Schwab
2005-04-19 23:33         ` David Kastrup
2005-04-19 21:05   ` Lute Kamstra
2005-04-20 14:57     ` Richard Stallman

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