From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca
Subject: Re: Removing unloaded functions from auto-mode-alist.
Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 00:10:51 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <85fyxhcff8.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87oec5p5rq.fsf@xs4all.nl> (Lute Kamstra's message of "Sat, 23 Apr 2005 23:00:57 +0200")
Lute Kamstra <Lute.Kamstra.lists@xs4all.nl> writes:
> David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org> writes:
>
>> The function that _clearly_ should trigger/use the recorded
>> information, however, is "require".
>
> Agreed.
>
>> I don't think we need to make (load "filename") (unload-feature
>>'filename) do anything sensible (and indeed it is legal to load the
>>same file several times in succession), but it seems desirable to
>>have (require 'filename) (unload-feature 'filename) form a proper
>>pair.
>
> I'm not sure if it's the best solution not to let (load "filename")
> record autoloads.
Well, the idea explored a bit later later was that "load" will record
autoloads, but not do anything with them by itself, instead letting
"provide" handle it.
> But letting only (require 'filename) record autoloads would be a big
> improvement. My guess is that the vast majority of files get loaded
> by do_autoload and Frequire. Furthermore, it seems quite easy to
> implement the recording of autoloads in Frequire. I'll give it a
> try and experiment with it for a while...
>
>> Unfortunately, this does not work well with the site-lisp.el
>> construct
>> (mapc 'load-file (directory-files "site-start.d" t ".el\\'"))
>>
>> So a better expedient would be to have
>> (provide 'xxx)
>>
>> turn on the necessary action at the end of the current load file in
>> case that the feature is provided the first time.
>>
>> This should be a pretty reliable way to do the recordings for files
>> that are connected with a "feature".
>
> I'm not familiar with this. Could you elaborate?
Many Emacs installations have a site-lisp/site-start.d directory. If
you want some code executed automatically (usually a bunch of
autoloads), then you'll drop the .el file in that directory.
> When is this used? Does it load files that define functions that
> replace autoloads?
I guess the most common case would be loading files that _place_
autoloads and add stuff to hook functions.
And it usually is a bunch of stuff that the system administrator
thought good for you. For example, if you install a prepackaged
foobar package from your favorite distribution, then this will drop
foobar.el into site-lisp/site-start.d/ and foobar.el will then setup
the package foobar with autoloads and similar.
If the wisdom of the system provider did not match your personal
tastes, being able to (unload-feature 'foobar) would be definitely
nice.
--
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-04-23 22:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-04-19 15:23 Removing unloaded functions from auto-mode-alist Lute Kamstra
2005-04-19 16:25 ` David Kastrup
2005-04-19 17:44 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-04-19 21:28 ` David Kastrup
2005-04-19 21:58 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-04-19 22:33 ` David Kastrup
2005-04-20 18:52 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-04-24 20:24 ` Lute Kamstra
2005-04-24 20:50 ` David Kastrup
2005-04-24 21:51 ` Lute Kamstra
2005-04-24 22:00 ` David Kastrup
2005-04-24 23:37 ` Lute Kamstra
2005-04-25 0:07 ` David Kastrup
2005-04-26 10:04 ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-20 19:22 ` Lute Kamstra
2005-04-19 23:01 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-04-19 23:14 ` Lute Kamstra
2005-04-19 23:24 ` David Kastrup
2005-04-20 18:41 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-04-20 19:00 ` David Kastrup
2005-04-20 19:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-04-20 19:50 ` David Kastrup
2005-04-20 19:29 ` Lute Kamstra
2005-04-20 14:57 ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-20 15:59 ` Lute Kamstra
2005-04-21 15:30 ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-21 16:35 ` Lute Kamstra
2005-04-22 20:51 ` David Kastrup
2005-04-23 21:00 ` Lute Kamstra
2005-04-23 22:10 ` David Kastrup [this message]
2005-04-24 20:21 ` Lute Kamstra
2005-04-24 20:32 ` David Kastrup
2005-04-24 20:52 ` Lute Kamstra
2005-04-25 16:05 ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-23 22:24 ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-20 14:57 ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-20 15:02 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-04-20 15:57 ` David Kastrup
2005-04-20 18:37 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-04-20 19:19 ` David Kastrup
2005-04-20 20:11 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-04-20 20:25 ` David Kastrup
2005-04-20 20:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-04-20 21:33 ` David Kastrup
2005-04-20 16:25 ` Andreas Schwab
2005-04-20 16:57 ` David Kastrup
2005-04-20 22:47 ` Andreas Schwab
2005-04-20 22:58 ` David Kastrup
2005-04-21 9:56 ` Andreas Schwab
2005-04-21 10:12 ` David Kastrup
2005-04-21 11:50 ` Andreas Schwab
2005-04-21 19:56 ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-21 20:13 ` David Kastrup
2005-04-23 16:15 ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-23 16:23 ` David Kastrup
2005-04-23 16:15 ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-21 11:41 ` Johan Vromans
2005-04-20 15:43 ` David Kastrup
2005-04-21 15:30 ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-21 17:46 ` David Kastrup
2005-04-23 16:15 ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-19 22:00 ` Lute Kamstra
2005-04-19 23:22 ` Andreas Schwab
2005-04-19 23:33 ` David Kastrup
2005-04-19 21:05 ` Lute Kamstra
2005-04-20 14:57 ` Richard Stallman
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