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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, stefankangas@gmail.com, dgutov@yandex.ru
Subject: Re: scratch/command 064f146 1/2: Change command to interactive ... modes
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2021 17:21:53 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83v9aq7m9a.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ft1vsmf5.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Tue,  16 Feb 2021 23:00:30 +0100)

> From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
> Cc: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com>,  dgutov@yandex.ru,
>   emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2021 23:00:30 +0100
> 
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> 
> > I think these nano-issues, if they are issues at all, don't come close
> > to justifying incompatible changes.
> 
> I think that in the long term, taking care to not make simple things
> like making a command for a mode too arduous, is important.

I don't think using 'declare' or a plist can be characterized as
"arduous".

> And again, I don't see what makes extending `interactive' so special
> here.  We introduce new things in Emacs Lisp all the time when we think
> that that improves the language.

It's not the extension per se, it's the fact that it causes
difficulties, as mentioned in this thread.  they may be small
difficulties, but the alternatives avoid them completely, and aren't
more complex.  I think using one of the alternatives will leave more
developers happy, and that in itself is a significant advantage, IMO.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-02-17 15:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found] ` <20210213141226.EEDFE20999@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org>
2021-02-13 20:04   ` scratch/command 064f146 1/2: Change command to interactive ... modes Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-13 21:05     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-13 21:33       ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-14 15:29         ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-14 16:03           ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-14 16:05             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-14 16:17               ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-14 16:20                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-14 16:24                   ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-14 17:25                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-14 20:25                       ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-15  3:38                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-16 12:15                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-16 15:41                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-16 16:31                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-16 17:03                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-16 17:06                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-16 17:36                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-16 17:39                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-16 17:46                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-16 18:10                                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-16 18:24                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-16 18:36                                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-16 18:49                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-16 19:31                                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-16 19:39                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-16 20:30                                                       ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-16 20:49                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-16 22:00                                                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-16 22:22                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-16 22:37                                                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-17  0:48                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-17 11:02                                                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-17 11:30                                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-17  9:10                                                                 ` Juri Linkov
2021-02-17 10:16                                                                   ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-17 11:08                                                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-17 17:45                                                                     ` Juri Linkov
2021-02-17 18:42                                                                       ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-17  8:50                                                               ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-17 13:57                                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-17 15:52                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-17 16:19                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-16 22:31                                                             ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-02-17 16:53                                                               ` Matt Armstrong
2021-02-16 22:47                                                             ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-02-16 22:55                                                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-16 23:20                                                                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-02-16 23:23                                                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-17 15:28                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-19  5:36                                                                     ` Richard Stallman
2021-02-17 15:25                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-17 15:21                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2021-02-17 19:01                                                               ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-17 19:42                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-17 19:49                                                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-17 19:30                                                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-17 20:12                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-18 23:57                                                                   ` Rolf Ade
2021-02-16 21:44                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-17  8:58                                                         ` Juri Linkov
2021-02-17 10:16                                                           ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-17 11:05                                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-17 17:45                                                             ` Juri Linkov
2021-02-17 19:26                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-16 12:07                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-17 20:05                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-17 21:03                           ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-17 21:06                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-17 22:26                               ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-18  3:57                           ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-18  4:43                             ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-18  5:20                               ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-18 10:33                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-18 10:38                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-18 10:40                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-18 14:01                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-18 16:03                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-18 16:47                                     ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2021-02-19 12:07                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-19 14:29                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-20 12:35                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-20 14:38                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-20 15:01                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-14 20:37                   ` Jose A. Ortega Ruiz
2021-02-14 23:23                     ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-14 16:49             ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2021-02-14 17:23               ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-14 17:52                 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2021-02-14 19:54                   ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-14 16:58             ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-02-14 17:23               ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-14 16:02       ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-14 16:07         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-14 16:23           ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-14 17:05             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen

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