From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: scratch/command 064f146 1/2: Change command to interactive ... modes
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2021 00:22:15 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <664f975c-9770-6d58-28be-d1bc8cd6bca5@yandex.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ft1vsmf5.fsf@gnus.org>
On 17.02.2021 00:00, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote:
> And again, I don't see what makes extending `interactive' so special
> here. We introduce new things in Emacs Lisp all the time when we think
> that that improves the language.
You're extending it in an incompatible way, one that most third-party
code won't be able to make use of for years to come. And this extension
basically sets in stone the kinds of "tags"
read-extended-command-predicate can meaningfully use. The new feature
being added to 'interactive' is non-extensible.
And yet, we have an alternative approach which is both more flexible and
available for people to use now. I don't see why we would want to spend
effort on maintaining support for both, honestly.
As for verbosity, it's not like there weren't any suggestions to reduce
the number of annotations either (like tying command definitions to
packages, or custom groups, etc).
Also, why all the new functions in simple.el are called simply
completion-*? They are not applicable to completion in any other
contexts, only to command completion in M-x.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-02-16 22:22 UTC|newest]
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[not found] ` <20210213141226.EEDFE20999@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org>
2021-02-13 20:04 ` scratch/command 064f146 1/2: Change command to interactive ... modes Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-13 21:05 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-13 21:33 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-14 15:29 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-14 16:03 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-14 16:05 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-14 16:17 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-14 16:20 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-14 16:24 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-14 17:25 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-14 20:25 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-15 3:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-16 12:15 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-16 15:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-16 16:31 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-16 17:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-16 17:06 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-16 17:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-16 17:39 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-16 17:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-16 18:10 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-16 18:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-16 18:36 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-16 18:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-16 19:31 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-16 19:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-16 20:30 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-16 20:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-16 22:00 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-16 22:22 ` Dmitry Gutov [this message]
2021-02-16 22:37 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-17 0:48 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-17 11:02 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-17 11:30 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-17 9:10 ` Juri Linkov
2021-02-17 10:16 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-17 11:08 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-17 17:45 ` Juri Linkov
2021-02-17 18:42 ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-17 8:50 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-17 13:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-17 15:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-17 16:19 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-16 22:31 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-02-17 16:53 ` Matt Armstrong
2021-02-16 22:47 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-02-16 22:55 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-16 23:20 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-02-16 23:23 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-17 15:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-19 5:36 ` Richard Stallman
2021-02-17 15:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-17 15:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-17 19:01 ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-17 19:42 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-17 19:49 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-17 19:30 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-17 20:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-18 23:57 ` Rolf Ade
2021-02-16 21:44 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-17 8:58 ` Juri Linkov
2021-02-17 10:16 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-17 11:05 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-17 17:45 ` Juri Linkov
2021-02-17 19:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-16 12:07 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-17 20:05 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-17 21:03 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-17 21:06 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-17 22:26 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-18 3:57 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-18 4:43 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-18 5:20 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-18 10:33 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-18 10:38 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-18 10:40 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-18 14:01 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-18 16:03 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-18 16:47 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2021-02-19 12:07 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-19 14:29 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-20 12:35 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-20 14:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-20 15:01 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-14 20:37 ` Jose A. Ortega Ruiz
2021-02-14 23:23 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-14 16:49 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2021-02-14 17:23 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-14 17:52 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2021-02-14 19:54 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-14 16:58 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-02-14 17:23 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-14 16:02 ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-14 16:07 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-14 16:23 ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-14 17:05 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
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