* Windows snapshot builds @ 2018-03-22 9:50 Phillip Lord 2018-03-27 16:17 ` Jostein Kjønigsen 2018-03-27 22:10 ` Rasmus 0 siblings, 2 replies; 23+ messages in thread From: Phillip Lord @ 2018-03-22 9:50 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-devel Inspired by the upcoming release of Emacs-26 RC1, I've released some snapshots windows builds for Emacs-27. https://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/pretest/windows/emacs-27/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: Windows snapshot builds 2018-03-22 9:50 Windows snapshot builds Phillip Lord @ 2018-03-27 16:17 ` Jostein Kjønigsen 2018-03-27 16:27 ` Aurélien Aptel 2018-03-27 20:52 ` Phillip Lord 2018-03-27 22:10 ` Rasmus 1 sibling, 2 replies; 23+ messages in thread From: Jostein Kjønigsen @ 2018-03-27 16:17 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-devel, Phillip Lord [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1540 bytes --] Hey Phil! I'd just like to report that I've downloaded and tested this updated installer on my "regular" Windows developer-machine. It worked as expected, and I'm glad to see most of my comments from last time you published an installer has been addressed :) Compared to the "old" way of getting Emacs up and running on Windows, this is a night and day difference. This actually feels "natively Windowsy", as opposed to that clunky "ZIP, UNZIP... Get more ZIPs, hope you UNZIP them the right place" Windows users were previously forced to endure. If you keep publishing these, this might be my new way to keep my Emacs updated on my Windows-machine! They -are- very convenient and with an installer like this, I believe the basic installation procedure should no longer be a road-block for Windows-users to try out Emacs. As such, this is a major milestone. There's still the issue about the lack code-signing, and Windows' GUI isn't getting any friendlier about that, but I guess that's a technicality we can leave for later, when there are no other issues to sort out. Ladies and gentlemen: I believe this man deserves some applause. Great work! -- Regards Jostein Kjønigsen jostein@kjonigsen.net 🍵 jostein@gmail.com https://jostein.kjonigsen.net On Thu, Mar 22, 2018, at 11:50 AM, Phillip Lord wrote: > > > Inspired by the upcoming release of Emacs-26 RC1, I've released some > snapshots windows builds for Emacs-27. > > https://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/pretest/windows/emacs-27/ > > [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 2525 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: Windows snapshot builds 2018-03-27 16:17 ` Jostein Kjønigsen @ 2018-03-27 16:27 ` Aurélien Aptel 2018-03-27 20:54 ` Phillip Lord 2018-03-27 20:52 ` Phillip Lord 1 sibling, 1 reply; 23+ messages in thread From: Aurélien Aptel @ 2018-03-27 16:27 UTC (permalink / raw) To: jostein; +Cc: Phillip Lord, Emacs development discussions Hm, the link points to an empty directory listing. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: Windows snapshot builds 2018-03-27 16:27 ` Aurélien Aptel @ 2018-03-27 20:54 ` Phillip Lord 0 siblings, 0 replies; 23+ messages in thread From: Phillip Lord @ 2018-03-27 20:54 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Aurélien Aptel; +Cc: jostein, Emacs development discussions Aurélien Aptel <aurelien.aptel+emacs@gmail.com> writes: > Hm, the link points to an empty directory listing. Yeah, not my brightest moment. Email an annoucement, then delete all the files. I've been fiddling, so wanted to update the files for some new snapshots. Deleted the old files, didn't upload the new ones. There's some more up their now. Phil ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: Windows snapshot builds 2018-03-27 16:17 ` Jostein Kjønigsen 2018-03-27 16:27 ` Aurélien Aptel @ 2018-03-27 20:52 ` Phillip Lord 1 sibling, 0 replies; 23+ messages in thread From: Phillip Lord @ 2018-03-27 20:52 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Jostein Kjønigsen; +Cc: jostein, emacs-devel Jostein Kjønigsen <jostein@secure.kjonigsen.net> writes: > If you keep publishing these, this might be my new way to keep my > Emacs updated on my Windows-machine! I plan to, but even if I don't the code is in the repo now and it's relatively easy to do. > They -are- very convenient and with an installer like this, I believe > the basic installation procedure should no longer be a road-block for > Windows-users to try out Emacs. As such, this is a major milestone. Yeah, I've watched people try to install Emacs before and the look of confusion is terrifying to see. Even the fact that the file is called "-installer.exe" should help significantly. It's a shame it's slated for Emacs-27. Too late to merge into Emacs-26 now, although I guess it could be back-ported. > There's still the issue about the lack code-signing, and Windows' GUI > isn't getting any friendlier about that, but I guess that's a > technicality we can leave for later, when there are no other issues > to sort out. Code-signing is a significant problem. The certificates are not free, I don't have any need for a personal one and, anyway, it should probably be done with a certificate from Gnu. AFAICT, though, technologically it's simple enough. > Ladies and gentlemen: I believe this man deserves some applause. > Great work! I appreciate the compliment. I shall be even happier if it gets lots of downloads. Phil ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: Windows snapshot builds 2018-03-22 9:50 Windows snapshot builds Phillip Lord 2018-03-27 16:17 ` Jostein Kjønigsen @ 2018-03-27 22:10 ` Rasmus 2018-03-29 11:07 ` Eli Zaretskii 2018-03-29 20:13 ` Phillip Lord 1 sibling, 2 replies; 23+ messages in thread From: Rasmus @ 2018-03-27 22:10 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-devel Hi Phillip, phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) writes: > Inspired by the upcoming release of Emacs-26 RC1, I've released some > snapshots windows builds for Emacs-27. > > https://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/pretest/windows/emacs-27/ Are you making the wonderful "*-deps-*.zip" packages? If so thank you! I recently convinced the nice IT admin to install Emacs on my Windows work PC on which I have zero fun rights. So far, it has been working great in that it makes it somewhat bearable to use a Windows PC. If possible, I might humbly request three other dependencies be included in the future. - zip.exe and unzip.exe (Info-Zip, I guess) are used when exporting ODT documents with Org and would be nice to include. - spellcheckers like hunspell and maybe aspell would be really, really nice to have! It’s admittedly a very soft dependency, but at least when you rely on Windows IT Admins, they get a bit confused when you first send them to the hunspell github page, only to tell them that the binary version can be gotten from Eli’s Sourceforge page... Thanks, Rasmus -- Don't panic!!! ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: Windows snapshot builds 2018-03-27 22:10 ` Rasmus @ 2018-03-29 11:07 ` Eli Zaretskii 2018-03-29 20:13 ` Phillip Lord 1 sibling, 0 replies; 23+ messages in thread From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2018-03-29 11:07 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Rasmus; +Cc: emacs-devel > From: Rasmus <rasmus@gmx.us> > Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2018 00:10:11 +0200 > > - zip.exe and unzip.exe (Info-Zip, I guess) are used when exporting ODT > documents with Org and would be nice to include. This dependency could be removed, at least in principle, by using w32-shell-execute with proper arguments, as the Windows Explorer can handle zip files just fine. (I say "in principle" because I never tried that, so maybe there's some obstacles.) Patches to this effect are welcome. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: Windows snapshot builds 2018-03-27 22:10 ` Rasmus 2018-03-29 11:07 ` Eli Zaretskii @ 2018-03-29 20:13 ` Phillip Lord 2018-04-02 12:47 ` Rasmus 1 sibling, 1 reply; 23+ messages in thread From: Phillip Lord @ 2018-03-29 20:13 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Rasmus; +Cc: emacs-devel Rasmus <rasmus@gmx.us> writes: > Hi Phillip, > > phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) writes: > >> Inspired by the upcoming release of Emacs-26 RC1, I've released some >> snapshots windows builds for Emacs-27. >> >> https://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/pretest/windows/emacs-27/ > > Are you making the wonderful "*-deps-*.zip" packages? If so thank you! I am, although they are no the default -- "no-deps.zip" contain the ones without. > I recently convinced the nice IT admin to install Emacs on my Windows work > PC on which I have zero fun rights. So far, it has been working great in > that it makes it somewhat bearable to use a Windows PC. > > If possible, I might humbly request three other dependencies be included > in the future. > > - zip.exe and unzip.exe (Info-Zip, I guess) are used when exporting ODT > documents with Org and would be nice to include. > > - spellcheckers like hunspell and maybe aspell would be really, really > nice to have! It’s admittedly a very soft dependency, but at least when > you rely on Windows IT Admins, they get a bit confused when you first > send them to the hunspell github page, only to tell them that the binary > version can be gotten from Eli’s Sourceforge page... Hmmm. It's a good question. I mean, it's trivial to do, but there are two ways of looking at it. Currently, these files contain the build dependencies and all their dependencies. This, admittedly, turns out to be a pretty large collection of things, but still it falls short of a full msys install. So, one argument says we should keep to this. The other argument says, we should add stuff which is directly used by Emacs, and accept the fact, that we might end up with the best part of msys. Or we sit in the middle and install on a case-by-case basis. I'd be inclined to do with the latter one, with the knowledge that it might end up being two unwieldly. Thoughts from anyone else? Phil ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: Windows snapshot builds 2018-03-29 20:13 ` Phillip Lord @ 2018-04-02 12:47 ` Rasmus 2018-04-09 13:12 ` Phillip Lord 0 siblings, 1 reply; 23+ messages in thread From: Rasmus @ 2018-04-02 12:47 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-devel phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) writes: > Rasmus <rasmus@gmx.us> writes: > >> Hi Phillip, >> >> phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) writes: >> >>> Inspired by the upcoming release of Emacs-26 RC1, I've released some >>> snapshots windows builds for Emacs-27. >>> >>> https://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/pretest/windows/emacs-27/ >> >> Are you making the wonderful "*-deps-*.zip" packages? If so thank you! > > I am, although they are no the default -- "no-deps.zip" contain the ones > without. Yes, that was the version I used last time I had to work on Windows PC. >> I recently convinced the nice IT admin to install Emacs on my Windows work >> PC on which I have zero fun rights. So far, it has been working great in >> that it makes it somewhat bearable to use a Windows PC. >> >> If possible, I might humbly request three other dependencies be included >> in the future. >> >> - zip.exe and unzip.exe (Info-Zip, I guess) are used when exporting ODT >> documents with Org and would be nice to include. >> >> - spellcheckers like hunspell and maybe aspell would be really, really >> nice to have! It’s admittedly a very soft dependency, but at least when >> you rely on Windows IT Admins, they get a bit confused when you first >> send them to the hunspell github page, only to tell them that the binary >> version can be gotten from Eli’s Sourceforge page... > > > Hmmm. It's a good question. I mean, it's trivial to do, but there are > two ways of looking at it. > > Currently, these files contain the build dependencies and all their > dependencies. This, admittedly, turns out to be a pretty large > collection of things, but still it falls short of a full msys > install. So, one argument says we should keep to this. > > The other argument says, we should add stuff which is directly used by > Emacs, and accept the fact, that we might end up with the best part of > msys. > > Or we sit in the middle and install on a case-by-case basis. > > I'd be inclined to do with the latter one, with the knowledge that it > might end up being two unwieldly. > > Thoughts from anyone else? If I could, I would use MSYS2 to manage programs on my work-issued Windows PC. I am not sure the admins have experience with GNU/Linux systems in particular and UNIX in general, and as such are reluctant to install MSYS2. On the other hand, they do know that you need your favorite "IDE" if your work involves "programming", and as such it was no issue to have Emacs installed. The "deps" version is great because it is directly hosted by GNU and contains mostly everything an Emacs user would need. It would just be great to have a few more "batteries" included. Rasmus -- Not everything that goes around comes back around, you know ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: Windows snapshot builds 2018-04-02 12:47 ` Rasmus @ 2018-04-09 13:12 ` Phillip Lord 2018-04-09 13:19 ` Stefan Monnier 0 siblings, 1 reply; 23+ messages in thread From: Phillip Lord @ 2018-04-09 13:12 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Rasmus; +Cc: emacs-devel Rasmus <rasmus@gmx.us> writes: > phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) writes: >> >> Hmmm. It's a good question. I mean, it's trivial to do, but there are >> two ways of looking at it. >> >> Currently, these files contain the build dependencies and all their >> dependencies. This, admittedly, turns out to be a pretty large >> collection of things, but still it falls short of a full msys >> install. So, one argument says we should keep to this. >> >> The other argument says, we should add stuff which is directly used by >> Emacs, and accept the fact, that we might end up with the best part of >> msys. >> >> Or we sit in the middle and install on a case-by-case basis. >> >> I'd be inclined to do with the latter one, with the knowledge that it >> might end up being two unwieldly. >> >> Thoughts from anyone else? > > If I could, I would use MSYS2 to manage programs on my work-issued Windows > PC. I am not sure the admins have experience with GNU/Linux systems in > particular and UNIX in general, and as such are reluctant to install > MSYS2. > > On the other hand, they do know that you need your favorite "IDE" if your > work involves "programming", and as such it was no issue to have Emacs > installed. The "deps" version is great because it is directly hosted by > GNU and contains mostly everything an Emacs user would need. It would > just be great to have a few more "batteries" included. I entirely appreciate the use-case. I am just thinking about whether there is a good, principled way on deciding on what to support. And, moreover, whether we can make a list of all the relevant packages upfront. That would also give me some idea of how much stuff we are going to add. It's probably not going to be significant -- the dependencies as given are already pretty extensive (including python for instance!). But it would be good to know. Phil ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: Windows snapshot builds 2018-04-09 13:12 ` Phillip Lord @ 2018-04-09 13:19 ` Stefan Monnier 2018-04-09 21:45 ` Rasmus 2018-04-10 4:33 ` Stephen Leake 0 siblings, 2 replies; 23+ messages in thread From: Stefan Monnier @ 2018-04-09 13:19 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-devel >> If I could, I would use MSYS2 to manage programs on my work-issued Windows >> PC. I am not sure the admins have experience with GNU/Linux systems in >> particular and UNIX in general, and as such are reluctant to install >> MSYS2. Maybe we could have an emacs-installer package which includes an msys2 system from which you can install further tools? Stefan ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: Windows snapshot builds 2018-04-09 13:19 ` Stefan Monnier @ 2018-04-09 21:45 ` Rasmus 2018-04-10 0:09 ` Richard Copley 2018-04-10 4:33 ` Stephen Leake 1 sibling, 1 reply; 23+ messages in thread From: Rasmus @ 2018-04-09 21:45 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-devel Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes: >>> If I could, I would use MSYS2 to manage programs on my work-issued Windows >>> PC. I am not sure the admins have experience with GNU/Linux systems in >>> particular and UNIX in general, and as such are reluctant to install >>> MSYS2. > > Maybe we could have an emacs-installer package which includes an msys2 > system from which you can install further tools? Now, wouldn’t that be wonderful! Rasmus -- I feel emotional landscapes they puzzle me ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: Windows snapshot builds 2018-04-09 21:45 ` Rasmus @ 2018-04-10 0:09 ` Richard Copley 2018-04-10 11:50 ` Phillip Lord 2018-04-10 22:14 ` Rasmus 0 siblings, 2 replies; 23+ messages in thread From: Richard Copley @ 2018-04-10 0:09 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Rasmus; +Cc: Phillip Lord, Emacs Development [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 791 bytes --] On 9 April 2018 at 22:45, Rasmus <rasmus@gmx.us> wrote: > Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes: > > >>> If I could, I would use MSYS2 to manage programs on my work-issued > Windows > >>> PC. I am not sure the admins have experience with GNU/Linux systems in > >>> particular and UNIX in general, and as such are reluctant to install > >>> MSYS2. > > > > Maybe we could have an emacs-installer package which includes an msys2 > > system from which you can install further tools? > > Now, wouldn’t that be wonderful! > > Rasmus You can get that now, by installing MSYS2 then installing "mingw-w64-x86_64-emacs" using the package manager. How about if we provide official binaries in the form of MSYS2 packages, alongside the formats we already provide? [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 1451 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: Windows snapshot builds 2018-04-10 0:09 ` Richard Copley @ 2018-04-10 11:50 ` Phillip Lord 2018-04-10 22:14 ` Rasmus 1 sibling, 0 replies; 23+ messages in thread From: Phillip Lord @ 2018-04-10 11:50 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Richard Copley; +Cc: Rasmus, Emacs Development Richard Copley <rcopley@gmail.com> writes: > On 9 April 2018 at 22:45, Rasmus <rasmus@gmx.us> wrote: > >> Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes: >> >> >>> If I could, I would use MSYS2 to manage programs on my work-issued >> Windows >> >>> PC. I am not sure the admins have experience with GNU/Linux systems in >> >>> particular and UNIX in general, and as such are reluctant to install >> >>> MSYS2. >> > >> > Maybe we could have an emacs-installer package which includes an msys2 >> > system from which you can install further tools? >> >> Now, wouldn’t that be wonderful! >> >> Rasmus > > > You can get that now, by installing MSYS2 then installing > "mingw-w64-x86_64-emacs" using the package manager. This is my thought also. I don't want to replicate msys2 functionality. I also think it might not answre Rasmus' use case -- if he is having packages installed for him, they might be admin installed, so updating may well not be possible. > How about if we provide official binaries in the form of MSYS2 packages, > alongside the formats we already provide? Two reasons: it's more work for me; and, msys2 already provides packages. What would "official" binaries bring? Phil ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: Windows snapshot builds 2018-04-10 0:09 ` Richard Copley 2018-04-10 11:50 ` Phillip Lord @ 2018-04-10 22:14 ` Rasmus 1 sibling, 0 replies; 23+ messages in thread From: Rasmus @ 2018-04-10 22:14 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-devel Richard Copley <rcopley@gmail.com> writes: > On 9 April 2018 at 22:45, Rasmus <rasmus@gmx.us> wrote: > >> Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes: >> >> >>> If I could, I would use MSYS2 to manage programs on my work-issued >> Windows >> >>> PC. I am not sure the admins have experience with GNU/Linux systems in >> >>> particular and UNIX in general, and as such are reluctant to install >> >>> MSYS2. >> > >> > Maybe we could have an emacs-installer package which includes an msys2 >> > system from which you can install further tools? >> >> Now, wouldn’t that be wonderful! >> >> Rasmus > > > You can get that now, by installing MSYS2 then installing > "mingw-w64-x86_64-emacs" using the package manager. > How about if we provide official binaries in the form of MSYS2 packages, > alongside the formats we already provide? I mostly took Stefan’s suggestion as a joke, as bundling MSYS2 with Emacs would be a way to get MSYS2 past pesky Windows system administrators. That was, at least, what I had in mind when I replied. If one has enough "rights" on a Windows PC to install MSYS2 that’s probably the most preferable approach if one ordinarily works on GNU/Linux systems (or so I imagine, I have never actually tried MSYS2). Rasmus -- Tack, ni svenska vakttorn. Med plutonium tvingar vi dansken på knä! ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: Windows snapshot builds 2018-04-09 13:19 ` Stefan Monnier 2018-04-09 21:45 ` Rasmus @ 2018-04-10 4:33 ` Stephen Leake 2018-04-10 11:51 ` Phillip Lord 1 sibling, 1 reply; 23+ messages in thread From: Stephen Leake @ 2018-04-10 4:33 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-devel Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes: >>> If I could, I would use MSYS2 to manage programs on my work-issued Windows >>> PC. I am not sure the admins have experience with GNU/Linux systems in >>> particular and UNIX in general, and as such are reluctant to install >>> MSYS2. > > Maybe we could have an emacs-installer package which includes an msys2 > system from which you can install further tools? msys2 already has an Emacs package, so it would be better to point this out to people. People who would be willing to use mays2 to add packages would probably be happier using the msys Emacs package in the first place. On the other hand, including msys2 in an Emacs installer might be a good way to introduce people to msys2. Depends on which is more popular/well known. -- -- Stephe ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: Windows snapshot builds 2018-04-10 4:33 ` Stephen Leake @ 2018-04-10 11:51 ` Phillip Lord 0 siblings, 0 replies; 23+ messages in thread From: Phillip Lord @ 2018-04-10 11:51 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Stephen Leake; +Cc: emacs-devel Stephen Leake <stephen_leake@stephe-leake.org> writes: > Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes: > >>>> If I could, I would use MSYS2 to manage programs on my work-issued Windows >>>> PC. I am not sure the admins have experience with GNU/Linux systems in >>>> particular and UNIX in general, and as such are reluctant to install >>>> MSYS2. >> >> Maybe we could have an emacs-installer package which includes an msys2 >> system from which you can install further tools? > > msys2 already has an Emacs package, so it would be better to point this > out to people. People who would be willing to use mays2 to add packages > would probably be happier using the msys Emacs package in the first place. > > On the other hand, including msys2 in an Emacs installer might be a good > way to introduce people to msys2. Depends on which is more popular/well > known. The installer does, in fact, contain a substantial chunk of msys2 now, although it perhaps does not advertise the fact, nor was it deliberate. Phil ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Windows Snapshot Builds @ 2018-10-08 15:57 Phillip Lord 2018-10-08 16:30 ` Boris Buliga 0 siblings, 1 reply; 23+ messages in thread From: Phillip Lord @ 2018-10-08 15:57 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-devel I've just uploaded the latest "weekly" snapshot builds for Emacs-27 on windows. https://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/pretest/windows/emacs-27/ Comments welcome. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: Windows Snapshot Builds 2018-10-08 15:57 Windows Snapshot Builds Phillip Lord @ 2018-10-08 16:30 ` Boris Buliga 2018-10-09 11:15 ` Phillip Lord 2018-10-10 18:14 ` Alan Third 0 siblings, 2 replies; 23+ messages in thread From: Boris Buliga @ 2018-10-08 16:30 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Phillip Lord; +Cc: emacs-devel Hi Phillip, Are there any plans on weekly Emacs 27 builds for macOS? Cheers, Boris On 8 Oct 2018, at 18:57, Phillip Lord wrote: > I've just uploaded the latest "weekly" snapshot builds for Emacs-27 on > windows. > > https://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/pretest/windows/emacs-27/ > > Comments welcome. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: Windows Snapshot Builds 2018-10-08 16:30 ` Boris Buliga @ 2018-10-09 11:15 ` Phillip Lord 2018-10-10 11:12 ` Jostein Kjønigsen 2018-10-10 18:14 ` Alan Third 1 sibling, 1 reply; 23+ messages in thread From: Phillip Lord @ 2018-10-09 11:15 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Boris Buliga; +Cc: emacs-devel Not from me, no. Phil "Boris Buliga" <boris@d12frosted.io> writes: > Hi Phillip, > > Are there any plans on weekly Emacs 27 builds for macOS? > > Cheers, > Boris > On 8 Oct 2018, at 18:57, Phillip Lord wrote: > >> I've just uploaded the latest "weekly" snapshot builds for Emacs-27 on >> windows. >> >> https://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/pretest/windows/emacs-27/ >> >> Comments welcome. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: Windows Snapshot Builds 2018-10-09 11:15 ` Phillip Lord @ 2018-10-10 11:12 ` Jostein Kjønigsen [not found] ` <87r2gvnzg4.fsf@russet.org.uk> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 23+ messages in thread From: Jostein Kjønigsen @ 2018-10-10 11:12 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-devel, Phillip Lord [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 949 bytes --] Hey Phillip. Thanks for the great service! Looking at the binaries uploaded, I see that the "installer" version seems about the same size as the Emacs-version without additional dependent DLLs, with all DLLs included being about twice that size. Is this intentional? Do we get the "full" Emacs with this installer? -- Regards Jostein Kjønigsen jostein@kjonigsen.net 🍵 jostein@gmail.com https://jostein.kjonigsen.net On Tue, Oct 9, 2018, at 1:15 PM, Phillip Lord wrote: > > Not from me, no. > > Phil > > "Boris Buliga" <boris@d12frosted.io> writes: > >> Hi Phillip, >> >> Are there any plans on weekly Emacs 27 builds for macOS? >> >> Cheers, >> Boris >> On 8 Oct 2018, at 18:57, Phillip Lord wrote: >> >>> I've just uploaded the latest "weekly" snapshot builds for >>> Emacs-27 on>>> windows. >>> >>> https://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/pretest/windows/emacs-27/ >>> >>> Comments welcome. > [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 2152 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
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* Re: Windows Snapshot Builds [not found] ` <87r2gvnzg4.fsf@russet.org.uk> @ 2018-10-12 12:04 ` Phillip Lord 0 siblings, 0 replies; 23+ messages in thread From: Phillip Lord @ 2018-10-12 12:04 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Jostein Kjønigsen; +Cc: jostein, emacs-devel The installer version *should* be the same as the full deps tar ball (I make the tar ball first, then the installer version). The lzma compression is just a lot better than the zip (especially for a large number of small files). Which is probably why the installer takes a long time to build. Still, I checked. The uncompressed size is about the same: ~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Emacs/x86_64$ du -shc * 311M bin 1.3M etc 16M include 194M lib 8.6M libexec 262M share 844K ssl 792M total emacs-windows$ du -shc * 276M bin 1.3M etc 16M include 193M lib 8.2M libexec 262M share 844K ssl 755M total Why it isn't *exactly* the same size I don't know and worries me a bit. Phil Jostein Kjønigsen <jostein@secure.kjonigsen.net> writes: > Hey Phillip. > > Thanks for the great service! > > Looking at the binaries uploaded, I see that the "installer" version > seems about the same size as the Emacs-version without additional > dependent DLLs, with all DLLs included being about twice that size. > Is this intentional? Do we get the "full" Emacs with this installer? > > -- > Regards > Jostein Kjønigsen > > jostein@kjonigsen.net 🍵 jostein@gmail.com > https://jostein.kjonigsen.net > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018, at 1:15 PM, Phillip Lord wrote: >> >> Not from me, no. >> >> Phil >> >> "Boris Buliga" <boris@d12frosted.io> writes: >> >>> Hi Phillip, >>> >>> Are there any plans on weekly Emacs 27 builds for macOS? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Boris >>> On 8 Oct 2018, at 18:57, Phillip Lord wrote: >>> >>>> I've just uploaded the latest "weekly" snapshot builds for >>>> Emacs-27 on>>> windows. >>>> >>>> https://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/pretest/windows/emacs-27/ >>>> >>>> Comments welcome. >> ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: Windows Snapshot Builds 2018-10-08 16:30 ` Boris Buliga 2018-10-09 11:15 ` Phillip Lord @ 2018-10-10 18:14 ` Alan Third 1 sibling, 0 replies; 23+ messages in thread From: Alan Third @ 2018-10-10 18:14 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Boris Buliga; +Cc: emacs-devel, Phillip Lord On Mon, Oct 08, 2018 at 07:30:43PM +0300, Boris Buliga wrote: > > Are there any plans on weekly Emacs 27 builds for macOS? I was going to suggest emacsformacosx.com, but it looks like his nightly builds have been broken for a few months now. -- Alan Third ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
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