From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Windows snapshot builds Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2018 21:13:47 +0100 Message-ID: <87muyq4p38.fsf@russet.org.uk> References: <878tako2vn.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87o9j9qif0.fsf@gmx.us> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1522355287 16696 195.159.176.226 (29 Mar 2018 20:28:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2018 20:28:07 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.91 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Rasmus Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 29 22:28:03 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f1e9T-0004Cf-2r for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 29 Mar 2018 22:28:03 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55533 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1f1eBU-0002U2-Vg for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 29 Mar 2018 16:30:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56864) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1f1e9k-0001Lj-P9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Mar 2018 16:28:21 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1f1e9g-0002fs-ND for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Mar 2018 16:28:20 -0400 Original-Received: from cloud103.planethippo.com ([78.129.138.110]:56606) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1f1e9g-0001zy-DH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Mar 2018 16:28:16 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=russet.org.uk; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type: MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Date:In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender :Reply-To:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From: Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help: List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=rrlRaUYxgKJ8A7wTVd6PqQRH6VNX63FHnx2knWua93Y=; b=XLtUbnFPCF5SIwd+t1YS4G0d3D sH7Qb3DAF6UUeeIEyrhc8AN/4AbB+xLPrLzk1bbPw7SdNoyM1atTomletgg4vr2SEkiCxBqKotGZ0 uakPryLb1KadgfJhabapljZiTDDY4w9N0+5fwAu1DKiNpBC5fuSC4LgKXG4zHn2dhHi0vdeH6Ktq3 C2jUA1GEd4ylM+VtF9I7fnlBcccR2sAcu98/T3yJnI4pIFIZlrgHc6OqipLvXvS/qcMJHPP9sQ0WQ wF36qca0DHHwxga0kzCZIQhfXOIINaQ5Pg4Ey/htbUdG8fAxB06oH8jeRXKxOzTcfa17mZ8Qaoi4X WuiN7pTQ==; Original-Received: from cpc142652-benw12-2-0-cust953.16-2.cable.virginm.net ([82.21.43.186]:54490 helo=russet.org.uk) by cloud103.planethippo.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.89_1) (envelope-from ) id 1f1e8z-001GGH-WD; Thu, 29 Mar 2018 20:27:34 +0000 In-Reply-To: <87o9j9qif0.fsf@gmx.us> (Rasmus's message of "Wed, 28 Mar 2018 00:10:11 +0200") X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cloud103.planethippo.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - russet.org.uk X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: cloud103.planethippo.com: authenticated_id: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Authenticated-Sender: cloud103.planethippo.com: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 78.129.138.110 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:224166 Archived-At: Rasmus writes: > Hi Phillip, > > phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) writes: > >> Inspired by the upcoming release of Emacs-26 RC1, I've released some >> snapshots windows builds for Emacs-27. >> >> https://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/pretest/windows/emacs-27/ > > Are you making the wonderful "*-deps-*.zip" packages? If so thank you! I am, although they are no the default -- "no-deps.zip" contain the ones without. > I recently convinced the nice IT admin to install Emacs on my Windows work > PC on which I have zero fun rights. So far, it has been working great in > that it makes it somewhat bearable to use a Windows PC. > > If possible, I might humbly request three other dependencies be included > in the future. > > - zip.exe and unzip.exe (Info-Zip, I guess) are used when exporting ODT > documents with Org and would be nice to include. > > - spellcheckers like hunspell and maybe aspell would be really, really > nice to have! It=E2=80=99s admittedly a very soft dependency, but at= least when > you rely on Windows IT Admins, they get a bit confused when you first > send them to the hunspell github page, only to tell them that the bin= ary > version can be gotten from Eli=E2=80=99s Sourceforge page... Hmmm. It's a good question. I mean, it's trivial to do, but there are two ways of looking at it. Currently, these files contain the build dependencies and all their dependencies. This, admittedly, turns out to be a pretty large collection of things, but still it falls short of a full msys install. So, one argument says we should keep to this. The other argument says, we should add stuff which is directly used by Emacs, and accept the fact, that we might end up with the best part of msys. Or we sit in the middle and install on a case-by-case basis. I'd be inclined to do with the latter one, with the knowledge that it might end up being two unwieldly. Thoughts from anyone else? Phil