From: Barry Warsaw <barry@python.org>
To: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: On the subject of Git, Bazaar, and the future of Emacs development
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 11:42:06 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130402114206.114a2f71@anarchist> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130402145457.GA3278@acm.acm>
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On Apr 02, 2013, at 02:54 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
>One aspect not yet touched upon is documentation. Compare, for example,
>{git,hg,bzr} help merge. git dumps you into a ~300 line man page. hg
>outputs a concise, yet complete ~40-line summary. bzr outputs a rambling
>~100 line essay which might say what the command does, but it's difficult
>to tell.
>
>hg wins here hands down. Given how many commands there are in git,
>having to study multi-hundred line man pages here seems suboptimal.
>Indeed, having to learn git could be a barrier to participation in
>projects which use it.
Fully agree. In many cases, git is even worse since it assumes you understand
the technical jargon and implementation details of the system just to be able
to guess at which of the many variations of a command you should pick.
-Barry
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2013-03-26 19:38 On the subject of Git, Bazaar, and the future of Emacs development John Wiegley
2013-03-26 19:42 ` Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso
2013-03-27 1:32 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-04-02 0:31 ` Barry Warsaw
2013-04-02 8:56 ` Timur Aydin
2013-04-02 13:30 ` Teemu Likonen
2013-04-02 16:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-04-02 17:02 ` Teemu Likonen
2013-04-02 17:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-04-02 17:44 ` Teemu Likonen
2013-04-02 16:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-04-02 13:19 ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-04-02 14:54 ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-04-02 15:13 ` Teemu Likonen
2013-04-02 15:45 ` Barry Warsaw
2013-04-02 16:21 ` Teemu Likonen
2013-04-02 17:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-04-03 8:00 ` Miles Bader
2013-04-02 15:16 ` Christopher Schmidt
2013-04-02 15:47 ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-04-02 15:42 ` Barry Warsaw [this message]
2013-03-26 20:55 ` Karl Fogel
2013-03-26 23:00 ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-03-27 4:02 ` Richard Stallman
2013-03-27 6:38 ` Thierry Volpiatto
2013-03-27 8:43 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-03-27 9:13 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-03-27 15:49 ` Allen S. Rout
2013-03-27 16:32 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-03-27 18:55 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-03-27 17:15 ` Richard Stallman
2013-03-27 17:56 ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-03-27 18:32 ` John Yates
2013-03-27 20:25 ` Werner LEMBERG
2013-03-28 4:20 ` Richard Stallman
2013-03-28 5:33 ` Leo Liu
2013-03-28 7:53 ` joakim
2013-03-28 12:21 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2013-03-28 18:59 ` Richard Stallman
2013-03-28 21:10 ` Karl Fogel
2013-03-29 3:48 ` Richard Stallman
2013-03-29 3:53 ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-03-29 18:05 ` Karl Fogel
2013-03-29 21:12 ` Richard Stallman
2013-03-28 4:20 ` Richard Stallman
2013-03-28 12:26 ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-03-28 15:11 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-03-28 18:58 ` Richard Stallman
2013-03-28 19:26 ` John Wiegley
2013-03-28 19:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-03-29 3:47 ` Richard Stallman
2013-03-28 19:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-03-27 18:48 ` Allen S. Rout
2013-03-27 20:27 ` Josh
2013-04-02 0:26 ` Barry Warsaw
2013-04-02 3:24 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-04-02 8:25 ` chad
2013-04-02 16:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-04-02 17:57 ` chad
2013-04-02 18:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-04-02 18:12 ` chad
2013-04-02 12:30 ` Jose E. Marchesi
2013-04-02 14:02 ` Barry Warsaw
2013-04-02 15:19 ` Jay Belanger
2013-04-02 19:27 ` Karl Fogel
2013-04-03 18:07 ` Richard Stallman
2013-04-03 21:34 ` Karl Fogel
2013-04-03 23:20 ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-04-04 3:09 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-04-04 7:23 ` Andreas Schwab
2013-04-04 7:53 ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-04-05 2:09 ` Richard Stallman
2013-04-05 6:46 ` Leo Liu
2013-04-05 15:01 ` Karl Fogel
2013-04-06 14:04 ` Richard Stallman
2013-04-03 0:06 ` Richard Stallman
2013-03-27 13:07 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-03-28 4:19 ` Richard Stallman
2013-03-28 12:47 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-03-28 13:25 ` John Wiegley
2013-03-28 13:57 ` Bastien
2013-03-28 18:59 ` Richard Stallman
2013-03-28 19:48 ` chad
2013-03-28 20:59 ` Bastien
2013-03-27 4:15 ` Michael Welsh Duggan
2013-03-27 6:38 ` Leo Liu
2013-03-31 22:01 ` Giorgos Keramidas
2013-03-31 23:00 ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-03-31 23:40 ` Giorgos Keramidas
2013-04-01 0:50 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-04-01 5:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-04-01 6:36 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-04-03 18:59 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-04-01 8:33 ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-04-01 17:47 ` John Wiegley
2013-04-02 19:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-04-02 19:28 ` Karl Fogel
2013-04-02 19:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-04-04 17:44 ` John Wiegley
2013-04-04 18:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-04-04 18:44 ` joakim
2013-04-04 19:15 ` John Wiegley
2013-04-04 20:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-04-04 18:57 ` Sam Steingold
2013-04-04 20:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-04-05 4:34 ` Bastien
2013-04-05 10:46 ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-04-05 15:37 ` Barry Warsaw
2013-04-06 23:03 ` Jambunathan K
2013-04-07 1:09 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-04-07 5:22 ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-04-04 23:08 ` Stephen Leake
2013-04-04 23:58 ` Daniel Colascione
2013-04-05 1:13 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-04-07 3:11 ` Wojciech Meyer
2013-04-05 9:57 ` Julien Danjou
2013-04-05 14:55 ` Karl Fogel
2013-04-05 15:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-04-05 15:21 ` Lennart Borgman
2013-04-02 22:00 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-03-27 8:55 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-03-27 14:10 ` John Wiegley
2013-03-27 16:54 ` Romain Francoise
2013-03-27 14:52 ` Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso
2013-03-27 7:53 ` Carsten Dominik
2013-03-27 9:09 ` Julien Danjou
2013-03-27 9:56 ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-03-27 10:36 ` David Engster
2013-03-27 12:51 ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-03-27 12:55 ` Julien Danjou
2013-03-27 13:39 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-03-27 13:58 ` David Engster
2013-03-27 23:13 ` Stephen Leake
2013-03-27 23:16 ` Stephen Leake
2013-03-28 3:26 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-03-28 8:37 ` Stephen Leake
2013-03-28 9:15 ` Andreas Schwab
2013-03-28 9:07 ` David Engster
2013-03-28 9:55 ` Abolishing ChangeLog files (was: On the subject of Git, Bazaar, and the future of Emacs development) Christopher Schmidt
2013-03-28 10:55 ` Abolishing ChangeLog files Thierry Volpiatto
2013-03-28 18:58 ` Richard Stallman
2013-03-28 20:09 ` Aidan Gauland
2013-03-28 21:00 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-03-29 3:47 ` Richard Stallman
2013-03-29 6:36 ` Paul Eggert
2013-03-29 20:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-03-28 23:44 ` Steve Youngs
2013-03-29 3:48 ` Richard Stallman
2013-03-29 8:02 ` Steve Youngs
2013-03-29 9:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-03-29 14:20 ` John Wiegley
2013-03-29 23:06 ` Steve Youngs
2013-03-29 18:37 ` Richard Stallman
2013-03-28 11:05 ` Abolishing ChangeLog files (was: On the subject of Git, Bazaar, and the future of Emacs development) Carsten Dominik
2013-03-28 11:44 ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-03-28 11:56 ` Abolishing ChangeLog files David Engster
2013-03-29 0:23 ` Steve Youngs
2013-03-28 11:59 ` Thierry Volpiatto
2013-03-28 13:17 ` John Wiegley
2013-03-28 23:58 ` Steve Youngs
2013-03-28 12:41 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-03-28 16:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-03-28 17:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-03-28 17:20 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-03-28 17:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-03-28 21:04 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-03-28 21:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-03-28 22:42 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-03-29 5:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-03-29 6:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-03-29 6:43 ` Thierry Volpiatto
2013-03-29 7:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-03-29 8:38 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-03-29 9:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-03-29 10:11 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-03-29 10:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-03-29 11:11 ` Thierry Volpiatto
2013-03-29 11:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-03-29 11:00 ` Thierry Volpiatto
2013-03-29 11:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-03-29 22:15 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-03-29 15:07 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-03-29 15:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-03-29 15:58 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-03-29 17:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-03-29 20:58 ` chad
2013-03-29 6:43 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-03-28 20:58 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-03-29 21:53 ` Nikolai Weibull
2013-03-30 2:20 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-03-30 8:07 ` Nikolai Weibull
2013-03-28 12:35 ` On the subject of Git, Bazaar, and the future of Emacs development Stefan Monnier
2013-03-28 13:08 ` David Engster
2013-03-29 7:00 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-03-29 10:14 ` David Engster
2013-03-29 21:27 ` joakim
2013-03-28 2:43 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-03-28 3:22 ` Kolo Rahl
2013-03-28 12:27 ` Stefan Monnier
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