From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Barry Warsaw Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: On the subject of Git, Bazaar, and the future of Emacs development Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 11:42:06 -0400 Organization: Damn Crazy Followers of the Horn Message-ID: <20130402114206.114a2f71@anarchist> References: <20130401203140.171a6d45@anarchist> <20130402145457.GA3278@acm.acm> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA256; boundary="Sig_/B=LklCEyt.xNSJBi_L0kNmu"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1364917342 21519 80.91.229.3 (2 Apr 2013 15:42:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 15:42:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Alan Mackenzie Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 02 17:42:50 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UN3MD-0003YG-4h for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 02 Apr 2013 17:42:45 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44697 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UN3Lo-0005bn-Fs for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 02 Apr 2013 11:42:20 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:48152) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UN3Lg-0005WJ-6X for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Apr 2013 11:42:18 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UN3Ld-0001aj-5f for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Apr 2013 11:42:12 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.wooz.org ([216.15.33.194]:36253) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UN3Ld-0001aU-1p for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Apr 2013 11:42:09 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.wooz.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57C5F10802C2; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 11:42:08 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail.wooz.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (carnies.wooz.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id llBdz1NXq+6h; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 11:42:08 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from anarchist (anarchist.wooz.org [192.168.11.111]) by mail.wooz.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2ACC410800EE; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 11:42:08 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <20130402145457.GA3278@acm.acm> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.1 (GTK+ 2.24.17; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 216.15.33.194 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:158542 Archived-At: --Sig_/B=LklCEyt.xNSJBi_L0kNmu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Apr 02, 2013, at 02:54 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote: >One aspect not yet touched upon is documentation. Compare, for example, >{git,hg,bzr} help merge. git dumps you into a ~300 line man page. hg >outputs a concise, yet complete ~40-line summary. bzr outputs a rambling >~100 line essay which might say what the command does, but it's difficult >to tell. > >hg wins here hands down. Given how many commands there are in git, >having to study multi-hundred line man pages here seems suboptimal. >Indeed, having to learn git could be a barrier to participation in >projects which use it. Fully agree. In many cases, git is even worse since it assumes you underst= and the technical jargon and implementation details of the system just to be ab= le to guess at which of the many variations of a command you should pick. -Barry --Sig_/B=LklCEyt.xNSJBi_L0kNmu Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJRWvxOAAoJEBJutWOnSwa/FbgP/jnsUYSylJDfHOB88Gn7KUhp YfkVzEDcfpu9/ix+nVtpkgV33vEwiKlu0V3aDaZgbM1HmdxS2yL7lBLelFh4sGI+ LLg2EzqHd8uQx542LjfHHhp9Q+N/tEIyorp8GvTWG+XIvdyGbdVpwdM+devH4a+J GYEP4EajOIMvAobO8jD2Pihtv5ZEOrhIaqQi44GrkPT/610UlZvvvwJGEw0Zcg4F 3RM3fZemju1BWa5ZiZP6W/ul1umpg5Sa2LBEyYlNKLP3AyS1axrE/FTUemCsCXdf raDef8OfexkfBHyHVV06ZmR5mY9Bsqq2cT+IzgxSCwyt1vQxze+Dz8S/1jHa9wDG B/cRoqNUikmMQ+qO9acV4J9NT4ZQ+jXre5PJ7D6kcnvR23gYXTrP4qHOto/SHcI/ 3ceu9c9Zm2hHJ4BJHuTjT64bloZT5Z2kxaNUTfS29D4WifpW/gUs+s56WImRk4jm hv5qD93lCMQUj0Y0Dr0k2qhcQhNRvg7ebvzpHkPaxL1ZRZ9Zvq+OskHnT9YYKQnD j+R+YmINXHUjyzpQaUB/1/bYbUXA4tQu6GTdcPhxpwyMfZ5r02FnKyJcQCrMRTtP 7Z5FRwe9Y5ritHGwj5qQIVopP5ELRaX+nDjEY3TdZ9gexXhPdakbcZal3qg9+btu h2hLo6uAaxvmyhz4R/Yl =EBPy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/B=LklCEyt.xNSJBi_L0kNmu--