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From: Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org>
Cc: bob@rattlesnake.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, teirllm@dms.auburn.edu,
	rms@gnu.org, Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Changing the no-toolkit scrollbar thumb color. (minor issue)
Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2003 03:59:34 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20031005075934.GB7828@fencepost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <C0304600-F704-11D7-BEAF-00039363E640@swipnet.se>

On Sun, Oct 05, 2003 at 09:23:00AM +0200, Jan D. wrote:
> I don't run Gnome, so I use the current customizations for GTK Emacs.
> But shall we go against the direction GTK/Gnome is headed for?  Or just
> accept the fact that GTK/Gnome has a different agenda an adopt to it?

I think it's perfectly fine to resist, and the more vocally the better.

The Gnome team is perfectly free to ignore such entreaties, but they should
at least be aware that people don't like the directions they're going in.  We
know they're stubborn and opinionated, and many people have complained about
their newfound religion (`all users are the same') without much apparent
success.  None-the-less, I certainly don't intend to just shut up and go
along quietly.

>From my point of view GTK/Gnome has the best combination of features/
practicality/widespread-adoption of any of the current toolkits, so there's
definitely a reason to support it well; if the Gnome team can be badgered
into actually listening to their users, then it will simply be better.

-Miles
-- 
Fast, small, soon; pick any 2.

  reply	other threads:[~2003-10-05  7:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-09-26 20:13 Changing the no-toolkit scrollbar thumb color. (minor issue) Rob Browning
2003-09-26 21:23 ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-09-26 21:32   ` Rob Browning
2003-09-27 18:16   ` Robert J. Chassell
2003-09-27 21:55     ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-09-28 13:08       ` Robert J. Chassell
2003-09-28 16:38         ` Jan D.
2003-09-28 21:17           ` Robert J. Chassell
2003-09-29 16:01             ` Jan D.
2003-09-29 19:05               ` Robert J. Chassell
2003-09-29 19:23                 ` Jan D.
2003-09-28 16:42         ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-09-28 18:01           ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-09-28 21:38             ` Robert J. Chassell
2003-09-28 23:47               ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-09-29  0:52                 ` Robert J. Chassell
2003-09-29  1:30                   ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-09-29 11:58                     ` Robert J. Chassell
2003-09-30 12:22                       ` Richard Stallman
2003-09-29 19:31               ` Richard Stallman
2003-09-30  0:11                 ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-09-30 13:55                   ` Stefan Monnier
2003-09-30 14:25                     ` Miles Bader
2003-09-30 15:16                       ` Stefan Monnier
2003-10-04 18:29                     ` Jan D.
2003-09-30 20:25                   ` Richard Stallman
2003-10-04 18:36                     ` Jan D.
2003-10-05  3:24                       ` Richard Stallman
2003-10-05 17:56                       ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-10-05 18:12                         ` Jan D.
2003-10-05 18:27                           ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-10-05 19:16                             ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-10-05 20:57                             ` Jan D.
2003-10-05 22:09                               ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-10-06  0:14                                 ` Miles Bader
2003-10-06  2:22                         ` Miles Bader
2003-10-06  4:15                           ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-10-06  4:34                             ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-10-12 15:04                               ` Jan D.
2003-09-30  0:27                 ` Robert J. Chassell
2003-09-30 20:24                   ` Richard Stallman
2003-10-01  0:35                   ` Danilo Segan
2003-10-04  0:35                     ` Robert J. Chassell
2003-10-04 18:55                       ` Jan D.
2003-10-04 18:43                     ` Jan D.
2003-10-04 19:35                       ` Danilo Segan
2003-10-04 18:11                   ` Jan D.
2003-10-05  0:25                     ` Miles Bader
2003-10-05  7:23                       ` Jan D.
2003-10-05  7:59                         ` Miles Bader [this message]
2003-09-28 21:25           ` Robert J. Chassell
2003-09-28 17:37     ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-09-28 21:33       ` Robert J. Chassell
2003-09-28 22:03         ` Luc Teirlinck

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