From: Luc Teirlinck <teirllm@dms.auburn.edu>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Changing the no-toolkit scrollbar thumb color. (minor issue)
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 11:42:59 -0500 (CDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200309281642.h8SGgxc11119@raven.dms.auburn.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m1A3bIJ-000IeAC@rattlesnake.com> (bob@rattlesnake.com)
Robert Chassell wrote:
But the problem is worse than inadaquate documentation. The current
message from `customize-face' is *false*. The `customize-face' method
tells you that it has changed the foreground and background faces of
the scroll bars when it has not.
I do not know exactly what you are referring to. Is it the "State"
message, like:
State: you have set this face, but not saved it for future sessions.
Strictly speaking this is accurate and relevant even if it has no
effect on the scroll bar. It does not say that you have successfully
changed the colors of the scroll bar, it says that you have set the
face. You can use any face for any purpose whatsoever. When Emacs
functions prompt for a face, I often use faces that are normally used
for something completely different, as long as I know that there will
be no conflict between the two uses. Maybe the documentation string
could be improved.
The `customize-face RET scroll-bar' feature needs to
* check for the tool kit in use and
if it is `GTK+' {i.e, if (featurep 'gtk) returns t},
- either have `customize-face' do the right thing, whatever that
be, or
- tell the user that `customize-face' fails with GTK and that
the user must modify his or her ~/.emacs.d/gtkrc file. The
work to be done to the ~/.emacs.d/gtkrc file needs to be
described in a manner that a novice can understand.
I do not know a lot about GTK. Somebody who does (Jan?) could tell
you whether your first suggestion is possible at all, as well as
answer your other GTK related questions. In as far as the second
suggestion is concerned, I believe that this information should be
conveyed in the documentation string, not through an error message.
Somebody may have several builds of Emacs and want to use the same
.emacs for all of them or may want to use the face for his own
purposes. The information actually is conveyed in the documentation
string, though maybe not clearly enough:
Basic face for the scroll bar colors under X.
^^^^^^^^
There are some other problems. I will follow up on them.
Sincerely,
Luc.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-09-28 16:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-09-26 20:13 Changing the no-toolkit scrollbar thumb color. (minor issue) Rob Browning
2003-09-26 21:23 ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-09-26 21:32 ` Rob Browning
2003-09-27 18:16 ` Robert J. Chassell
2003-09-27 21:55 ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-09-28 13:08 ` Robert J. Chassell
2003-09-28 16:38 ` Jan D.
2003-09-28 21:17 ` Robert J. Chassell
2003-09-29 16:01 ` Jan D.
2003-09-29 19:05 ` Robert J. Chassell
2003-09-29 19:23 ` Jan D.
2003-09-28 16:42 ` Luc Teirlinck [this message]
2003-09-28 18:01 ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-09-28 21:38 ` Robert J. Chassell
2003-09-28 23:47 ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-09-29 0:52 ` Robert J. Chassell
2003-09-29 1:30 ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-09-29 11:58 ` Robert J. Chassell
2003-09-30 12:22 ` Richard Stallman
2003-09-29 19:31 ` Richard Stallman
2003-09-30 0:11 ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-09-30 13:55 ` Stefan Monnier
2003-09-30 14:25 ` Miles Bader
2003-09-30 15:16 ` Stefan Monnier
2003-10-04 18:29 ` Jan D.
2003-09-30 20:25 ` Richard Stallman
2003-10-04 18:36 ` Jan D.
2003-10-05 3:24 ` Richard Stallman
2003-10-05 17:56 ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-10-05 18:12 ` Jan D.
2003-10-05 18:27 ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-10-05 19:16 ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-10-05 20:57 ` Jan D.
2003-10-05 22:09 ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-10-06 0:14 ` Miles Bader
2003-10-06 2:22 ` Miles Bader
2003-10-06 4:15 ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-10-06 4:34 ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-10-12 15:04 ` Jan D.
2003-09-30 0:27 ` Robert J. Chassell
2003-09-30 20:24 ` Richard Stallman
2003-10-01 0:35 ` Danilo Segan
2003-10-04 0:35 ` Robert J. Chassell
2003-10-04 18:55 ` Jan D.
2003-10-04 18:43 ` Jan D.
2003-10-04 19:35 ` Danilo Segan
2003-10-04 18:11 ` Jan D.
2003-10-05 0:25 ` Miles Bader
2003-10-05 7:23 ` Jan D.
2003-10-05 7:59 ` Miles Bader
2003-09-28 21:25 ` Robert J. Chassell
2003-09-28 17:37 ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-09-28 21:33 ` Robert J. Chassell
2003-09-28 22:03 ` Luc Teirlinck
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