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From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
To: "Eli Zaretskii" <eliz@gnu.org>, "Fu Yuan" <casouri@gmail.com>,
	"Stefan Monnier" <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	"Lars Ingebrigtsen" <larsi@gnus.org>,
	"Theodor Thornhill" <theo@thornhill.no>,
	"Jostein Kjønigsen" <jostein@secure.kjonigsen.net>
Cc: 60559@debbugs.gnu.org, mardani29@yahoo.es, epg@pretzelnet.org
Subject: bug#60559: 29.0.60; "Cannot activate tree-sitter" spam
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2023 15:17:36 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <fda4e6e7-92c3-06d9-748c-c9edecf59697@yandex.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83h6x5xym7.fsf@gnu.org>

On 05/01/2023 08:51, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> So here's a suggestion for such a solution: we make all the
> *-ts-mode's optional.  That is, we don't add any of them to
> auto-mode-alist unless the file *-ts-mode.el is loaded, and we
> document them all in NEWS and the user manual as optional.  users who
> want them will have to manually activate them.  This way, the original
> use case that started this bug report is automatically solved, and the
> other use case, where the user intends to activate one of these modes,
> is also served by showing the warning, which in that case is perfectly
> justified: the user asked for something that we cannot do, so we warn
> him/her.

Personally, I'd rather the users be made aware that they can install 
such-and-such grammars and enjoy good support for the file types they 
just visited.

I understand that it can be a bother for people who are used to just 
editing such files using fundamental-mode, but they could similarly 
complain if we added a major mode (for a given file type) that is 
functional but still different from the "last 25 years".

So I agree with your original assessment that it's not a bug.

What we could do here, though, to reduce the aggravation:

- Move the warning to *Messages*. It will be slightly less noticeable, 
but won't occupy "half the screen" either.

and/or

- Add a new defcustom which would allow people to silence the 
tree-sitter related warnings altogether. tree-sitter major modes without 
available grammars work more or less like fundamental-mode.

Or we can just recommend such users edit their auto-mode-alist to 
associate fundamental-mode with those file types. That only takes a few 
minutes.





  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-01-05 13:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-04 14:48 bug#60559: 29.0.60; "Cannot activate tree-sitter" spam Eric Gillespie
2023-01-04 18:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-04 19:40   ` Daniel Martín via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-01-04 20:03     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-05  0:43       ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-01-05  6:51       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-05  7:06         ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-01-05  7:44           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-05  8:00             ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-01-05  8:26               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-05  8:40                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-01-05  8:42                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-01-05  8:54                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-05  8:52                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-05  9:05                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-01-05  7:57         ` Jostein Kjønigsen
2023-01-05  8:12           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-05  8:32             ` Jostein Kjønigsen
2023-01-05  8:44         ` Gregory Heytings
2023-01-05  8:48           ` Gregory Heytings
2023-01-05  9:00             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-05  8:56           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-05 13:17         ` Dmitry Gutov [this message]
2023-01-05 14:02         ` Theodor Thornhill via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-01-04 19:59   ` Stephen Berman
2023-01-04 20:10     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-04 20:33       ` Stephen Berman
2023-01-05  6:41         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-05  7:46           ` Juri Linkov
2023-01-05  7:58             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-05 14:59               ` Eric Gillespie
2023-01-22 13:24                 ` Eli Zaretskii

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