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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Gregory Heytings <gregory@heytings.org>
Cc: casouri@gmail.com, 60559@debbugs.gnu.org, theo@thornhill.no,
	mardani29@yahoo.es, jostein@secure.kjonigsen.net,
	monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, larsi@gnus.org, epg@pretzelnet.org
Subject: bug#60559: 29.0.60; "Cannot activate tree-sitter" spam
Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2023 11:00:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83zgaxwe34.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8dea9f3e0ec5d0bfd26b@heytings.org> (message from Gregory Heytings on Thu, 05 Jan 2023 08:48:11 +0000)

> Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2023 08:48:11 +0000
> From: Gregory Heytings <gregory@heytings.org>
> cc: Fu Yuan <casouri@gmail.com>, 60559@debbugs.gnu.org, 
>     Theodor Thornhill <theo@thornhill.no>, mardani29@yahoo.es, 
>     Jostein Kjønigsen <jostein@secure.kjonigsen.net>, 
>     Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>, 
>     Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>, epg@pretzelnet.org
> 
> > I suggest a slightly different solution: add a global minor mode, say 
> > 'ts-modes'.  Users would only have to add (ts-modes 1) in their init 
> > files, and the logic would be:
> >
> > (treesit-available-p) ts-modes
> > nil                   nil      => do nothing
> > nil                   t        => warning
> > t                     nil      => use available tree-sitter modes
> > t                     t        => use available tree-sitter modes
> >
> > This seems more future-proof: otherwise users who want to user the 
> > available tree-sitter modes would have to require all such modes.  ATM 
> > there are only 19, but Emacs 30 could very well have twice or thrice 
> > that number of tree-sitter modes.
> 
> And perhaps we could even add a third value for ts-modes, say "no".  In 
> that case tree-sitter modes would not be used even if they are available. 
> Users may prefer, for one reason or another, to not use them even if they 
> are available because their system administrator installed them.

We discussed a minor mode approach, and discovered it doesn't work
well enough, because different modes need different considerations.

Moreover, silently doing something depending on whether
treesit-available-p returns nil is not the best UX, as I explained
up-thread.  Actually loading a mode that the user wants is much more
natural and easy.

P.S. Please disregard the previous email about customizing a list: I
was confused when I wrote it.





  reply	other threads:[~2023-01-05  9:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-04 14:48 bug#60559: 29.0.60; "Cannot activate tree-sitter" spam Eric Gillespie
2023-01-04 18:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-04 19:40   ` Daniel Martín via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-01-04 20:03     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-05  0:43       ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-01-05  6:51       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-05  7:06         ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-01-05  7:44           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-05  8:00             ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-01-05  8:26               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-05  8:40                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-01-05  8:42                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-01-05  8:54                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-05  8:52                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-05  9:05                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-01-05  7:57         ` Jostein Kjønigsen
2023-01-05  8:12           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-05  8:32             ` Jostein Kjønigsen
2023-01-05  8:44         ` Gregory Heytings
2023-01-05  8:48           ` Gregory Heytings
2023-01-05  9:00             ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2023-01-05  8:56           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-05 13:17         ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-01-05 14:02         ` Theodor Thornhill via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-01-04 19:59   ` Stephen Berman
2023-01-04 20:10     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-04 20:33       ` Stephen Berman
2023-01-05  6:41         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-05  7:46           ` Juri Linkov
2023-01-05  7:58             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-05 14:59               ` Eric Gillespie
2023-01-22 13:24                 ` Eli Zaretskii

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