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From: Karl Fogel <kfogel@red-bean.com>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>, Chong Yidong <cyd@gnu.org>,
	12507-done@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#12507: [debbugs-tracker] Processed: severity 12507 wishlist
Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2020 18:28:14 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87im9pt3a9.fsf@red-bean.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fe62d513-bc37-4a5c-bb38-ca6f98977a44@default> (Drew Adams's message of "Tue, 29 Sep 2020 08:45:17 -0700 (PDT)")

Okay, this is done now:

  | commit 17fa17be3d93fc10f6ca91d738d5056b1b9f1f1e
  | Author:     Karl Fogel <kfogel@red-bean.com>
  | AuthorDate: Sat Nov 28 18:17:46 2020 -0600
  | 
  | Save bookmarks by using `write-file' (bug#12507)
  | 
  | Go back to using `write-file' to save bookmarks, instead of using
  | `write-region'.  This means numbered backups of the bookmark file may
  | get made again, depending on the value of `bookmark-version-control'.
  | 
  | Thanks especially to Drew Adams and Eli Zaretskii for their
  | persistence in tracking down information relevant to this change.

I committed it on the 'emacs-27' branch.  That seemed like the right place for a small and safe change like this (in addition to running 'make check', I tested it manually to make sure it has the effects we expected).  

Although there's been a fair amount of activity in bookmark.el on 'master' recently (e.g., Stefan Kangas's changes to base `bookmark-bmenu-mode' on `tabulated-list-mode', for bug #39293), my commit does not conflict with any of that activity, so there should be no problem when 'emacs-27' is next automerged to 'master'.

Closing bug #12507 with this message.

Best regards,
-Karl

On 29 Sep 2020, Drew Adams wrote:
>> >What's wrong with the obvious, simple solution to the
>> >real, recognized problem of no backups for bookmark
>> >files: use `write-file'?  That's the first question
>> >to ask and answer, no?
>> 
>> I can't think of any reason now.  I have a vague memory that there *was* a
>> specific reason, but if there was, I failed to document adequately at the
>> time and have been unable to recover it now.
>> 
>> Eli helpfully linked to Richard's message
>> (https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-
>> devel/2005-
>> 05/msg01376.html__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!OesHeMbHNKqFeUCyyW2WJ0UeXBZjSXngBYlvA1Q5G9F
>> zXXgAa30g7LGrcwolObMB$ ), in which Richard points out that if bookmark visits
>> the file anyway when reading, then there's nothing to be gained (from the
>> perspective of saveplace.el interference) from avoiding visiting it when
>> writing.
>> 
>> And `bookmark-load' *does* visit the file when reading, so I'm leaning toward
>> just taking your suggestion and reverting to `write-file' -- but this time
>> leaving better historical breadcrumbs (in comments and/or log messages) in
>> case my vaguely-remembered bug turns out to be real and reappears.
>> 
>> I will do this as soon as I have time to focus on it and make sure I don't
>> make a silly blunder; that may be several days.
>
>Thanks for looking into this, Karl.  (No hurry.)





      reply	other threads:[~2020-11-29  0:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found] ` <handler.s.C.13485522721217.transcript@debbugs.gnu.org>
2012-09-25 13:53   ` bug#12507: [debbugs-tracker] Processed: severity 12507 wishlist Drew Adams
2012-09-26  2:53     ` Chong Yidong
2012-09-26  3:18       ` Drew Adams
2012-09-26  4:04         ` Stefan Monnier
2012-09-26 14:19           ` Drew Adams
2012-09-26 19:46             ` Stefan Monnier
2012-09-26 20:31               ` Drew Adams
2012-09-26 21:46         ` Karl Fogel
2012-09-26 22:26           ` Drew Adams
2012-09-26 23:36             ` Drew Adams
2012-09-27 15:48             ` Karl Fogel
2012-09-27 16:00               ` Drew Adams
2012-09-27 17:57                 ` Karl Fogel
2012-09-27 18:32                   ` Drew Adams
2012-09-27  3:24           ` Stefan Monnier
2012-09-24 18:41             ` bug#12507: 24.2.50; `bookmark-write-file': use `write-file', not `write-region', to get backups Drew Adams
2012-09-27  5:38               ` bug#12507: [debbugs-tracker] Processed: severity 12507 wishlist Thierry Volpiatto
2012-09-27 18:37                 ` Drew Adams
2012-09-27 21:16                   ` Thierry Volpiatto
2012-09-28  9:04                   ` Thierry Volpiatto
2012-09-28 20:00                     ` Drew Adams
2012-09-29  7:42               ` Thierry Volpiatto
2012-09-29 14:36                 ` Drew Adams
2012-09-29 15:12                   ` Thierry Volpiatto
2012-09-29 15:51                     ` Drew Adams
2012-09-29 16:20               ` Thierry Volpiatto
2012-09-29 16:50                 ` Drew Adams
2012-09-29 16:57                   ` Thierry Volpiatto
2012-10-01  3:38               ` bug#12507: Option `(bookmark-)version-control': Use :tag so doc string matches menu Karl Fogel
2012-10-01  4:06                 ` bug#12507: Option `(bookmark-)version-control': Use :tag so docstring " Drew Adams
2012-10-01  4:13               ` bug#12507: Have I mentioned how much I hate Debbugs? Karl Fogel
2012-10-01  4:50                 ` Drew Adams
2012-10-01 21:23                   ` Karl Fogel
2012-10-01 22:00                     ` Drew Adams
2012-10-02  5:31                       ` Thierry Volpiatto
2020-11-29  1:07               ` bug#12507: [debbugs-tracker] Processed: severity 12507 wishlist Karl Fogel
2012-09-27  8:36         ` bug#12507: `bookmark-write-file': use `write-file', not `write-region', to get backups Juri Linkov
2012-09-27 15:02           ` Drew Adams
2020-09-18 15:02       ` bug#12507: [debbugs-tracker] Processed: severity 12507 wishlist Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-18 16:23         ` Drew Adams
2020-09-19 14:18           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-19 17:29             ` Drew Adams
2020-09-23  6:41               ` Karl Fogel
2020-09-23 13:34                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-23 16:23                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-24 13:58                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-29  5:27                       ` Karl Fogel
2020-09-29 14:29                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-23 14:27                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-23 18:13                   ` Drew Adams
2020-09-23 18:14                 ` Drew Adams
2020-09-29  5:25                   ` Karl Fogel
2020-09-29 15:45                     ` Drew Adams
2020-11-29  0:28                       ` Karl Fogel [this message]

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