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From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: "'Thierry Volpiatto'" <thierry.volpiatto@gmail.com>,
	<12507@debbugs.gnu.org>
Subject: bug#12507: [debbugs-tracker] Processed: severity 12507 wishlist
Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 07:36:09 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <A3FD7FCE897F4792BC831AF8B35EBB29@us.oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877grduvfz.fsf@gmail.com>

> > The question about visiting the file is still open, though.
>
> I am using now the patch I sent here yesterday and it works 
> really good, faster and do backups (numered) as expected.
> Hope it will be applied here in emacs because it DTRT.
> 
> I don't understand what is the problem with "visiting the file".
> See in precedent post why it is not bad visiting the file.
> In the special case of bookmark-write-file, it is really not the
> problem.

Your question is for Stefan.

Your patch is equivalent to the change I proposed originally: just replace
`write-region' with `write-file'.  Of course it works.  It is what I have been
using, with no problem.

But it has the other effects that Stefan mentioned, since the file is visited.
He seems to be objecting to that.  But it's not too clear - perhaps he was just
relating why the change from `write-file' was made, without expressing any
opinion.

And we have not heard anything from him in reply to my statement that there
seems to be no way to make a backup without also visiting the file.  If that
guess is correct then the choices would seem to be:

1. Provide for optional backups, visiting the file systematically.

2. Do not provide for optional backups, and never visit the file.

3. Provide for optional backups, but if the user chooses not to back up, then do
not visit the file.

With #3, the user would pay the price that Stefan mentions for visiting the file
only when s?he chooses backup.






  reply	other threads:[~2012-09-29 14:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <87bogubqjy.fsf@gnu.org>
     [not found] ` <handler.s.C.13485522721217.transcript@debbugs.gnu.org>
2012-09-25 13:53   ` bug#12507: [debbugs-tracker] Processed: severity 12507 wishlist Drew Adams
2012-09-26  2:53     ` Chong Yidong
2012-09-26  3:18       ` Drew Adams
2012-09-26  4:04         ` Stefan Monnier
2012-09-26 14:19           ` Drew Adams
2012-09-26 19:46             ` Stefan Monnier
2012-09-26 20:31               ` Drew Adams
2012-09-26 21:46         ` Karl Fogel
2012-09-26 22:26           ` Drew Adams
2012-09-26 23:36             ` Drew Adams
2012-09-27 15:48             ` Karl Fogel
2012-09-27 16:00               ` Drew Adams
2012-09-27 17:57                 ` Karl Fogel
2012-09-27 18:32                   ` Drew Adams
2012-09-27  3:24           ` Stefan Monnier
2012-09-24 18:41             ` bug#12507: 24.2.50; `bookmark-write-file': use `write-file', not `write-region', to get backups Drew Adams
2012-09-27  5:38               ` bug#12507: [debbugs-tracker] Processed: severity 12507 wishlist Thierry Volpiatto
2012-09-27 18:37                 ` Drew Adams
2012-09-27 21:16                   ` Thierry Volpiatto
2012-09-28  9:04                   ` Thierry Volpiatto
2012-09-28 20:00                     ` Drew Adams
2012-09-29  7:42               ` Thierry Volpiatto
2012-09-29 14:36                 ` Drew Adams [this message]
2012-09-29 15:12                   ` Thierry Volpiatto
2012-09-29 15:51                     ` Drew Adams
2012-09-29 16:20               ` Thierry Volpiatto
2012-09-29 16:50                 ` Drew Adams
2012-09-29 16:57                   ` Thierry Volpiatto
2012-10-01  3:38               ` bug#12507: Option `(bookmark-)version-control': Use :tag so doc string matches menu Karl Fogel
2012-10-01  4:06                 ` bug#12507: Option `(bookmark-)version-control': Use :tag so docstring " Drew Adams
2012-10-01  4:13               ` bug#12507: Have I mentioned how much I hate Debbugs? Karl Fogel
2012-10-01  4:50                 ` Drew Adams
2012-10-01 21:23                   ` Karl Fogel
2012-10-01 22:00                     ` Drew Adams
2012-10-02  5:31                       ` Thierry Volpiatto
2020-11-29  1:07               ` bug#12507: [debbugs-tracker] Processed: severity 12507 wishlist Karl Fogel
2012-09-27  8:36         ` bug#12507: `bookmark-write-file': use `write-file', not `write-region', to get backups Juri Linkov
2012-09-27 15:02           ` Drew Adams
2020-09-18 15:02       ` bug#12507: [debbugs-tracker] Processed: severity 12507 wishlist Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-18 16:23         ` Drew Adams
2020-09-19 14:18           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-19 17:29             ` Drew Adams
2020-09-23  6:41               ` Karl Fogel
2020-09-23 13:34                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-23 16:23                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-24 13:58                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-29  5:27                       ` Karl Fogel
2020-09-29 14:29                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-23 14:27                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-23 18:13                   ` Drew Adams
2020-09-23 18:14                 ` Drew Adams
2020-09-29  5:25                   ` Karl Fogel
2020-09-29 15:45                     ` Drew Adams
2020-11-29  0:28                       ` Karl Fogel

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